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MayReasonRule

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Sat Jan 28, 2023, 01:25 PM Jan 2023

Massachusetts Bill allowing Prisoners to trade Organs for Reduced Sentences [View all]

Last edited Sat Jan 28, 2023, 03:12 PM - Edit history (1)

The Bill

What would you give for your life?

What would you give for your freedom?

CO-SPONSORS
Carlos González, Democrat 10th District
Judith A. Garcia, Democrat 11th District
Shirley B. Arriaga, Democrat 8th District
Bud L. Williams, Democrat 11th District
Russell E. Holmes, Democrat 6th District

Would you let the government take your organs for a shorter sentence?

It’s unethical, it’s coercive, it’s a slippery slope to some Repo: the Genetic Opera horse-shit.
I'd expect this out of the Nat-C Fascist GOP, not the Democratic party for fucks-sake.

Massachusetts has some of the best doctors, nurses, hospitals. I can’t imagine they would find this ethical.

Organ donation is a huge process. You need to be medically evaluated as a match to the recipient but you also undergo testing to make sure you are physically and mentally capable of transplant. Part of that evaluation is a meeting with a mental health professional to glean of course if you’re capable of handling the post-transplant regimen but also to determine if there are strings attached to donation.

They will not push forward with a match where there is ethical ambiguity. I don’t see how this program would proceed past that stage because it is very much a transaction with strings attached.

If one wishes to increase the pool of available organs there are steps we can take like educating the general public about live donation, encouraging people to register as a donor, dispelling myths about transplant etc.

But probably the biggest thing we can do is challenge dialysis companies like DaVita and Fresenius - who lobby against bills that expand access to prescription drug coverage for transplant recipients.

These are for profit companies that make money by keeping people on dialysis, even when transplant is often the better path. They’ve lobbied against bills that would expand Medicare coverage of immunosuppressive drugs, which are required for the life of the transplant.

The number one cause of transplant rejection and return to dialysis is non-compliance - but this is usually due to patients not being able to afford medication.

You want the list to be shorter, the cost to tax payers to be less (Medicare funds dialysis) - you don’t grow the pool of available kidneys, you shrink the pool of who needs them by providing better support to transplant patients and stopping for profit dialysis companies from predatory practices (including advising dialysis as a long term solution to organ failure).

May reason rule.
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No XanaDUer2 Jan 2023 #1
Notice the co-sponsors of the bill MayReasonRule Jan 2023 #11
Agree KT2000 Jan 2023 #25
Are they paid for their organs ? XanaDUer2 Jan 2023 #2
They would be trading them... MayReasonRule Jan 2023 #12
Wow. Coerced organ farming XanaDUer2 Jan 2023 #16
Why would four members of our party sponsor such a bill? MayReasonRule Jan 2023 #19
I may have misunderstood XanaDUer2 Jan 2023 #18
This is for sentence reduction, so nope. Excerpts from the bill... MayReasonRule Jan 2023 #20
Wow. Some Dems are assholes XanaDUer2 Jan 2023 #21
I'm still looking at the money trail... MayReasonRule Jan 2023 #23
I'm really disgusted nt XanaDUer2 Jan 2023 #24
Maybe to be an organ donor TheFarseer Jan 2023 #3
Give your organ and go free to continue being a serial killer,(sarcasm) patricia92243 Jan 2023 #4
Absolutely disgraceful. Dehumanizing. Basically saying, " we take bribes." Raven123 Jan 2023 #5
Can we have your liver, then? (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Jan 2023 #6
"Can we have your liver, then?" markodochartaigh Jan 2023 #27
They should also consider early release if a thief is willing to give up his hand Chainfire Jan 2023 #7
When I needed money, I sold two kidneys. keithbvadu2 Jan 2023 #8
😜 rubbersole Jan 2023 #9
First they came for my liver... n/t yorkster Jan 2023 #10
This is horrific. This is effectively human trafficking. Disgusting. LonePirate Jan 2023 #13
Are these individuals without logic? MayReasonRule Jan 2023 #14
Not a good idea. China and other places Tetrachloride Jan 2023 #15
Just imagine how that would affect a judges decision making process if ... cutroot Jan 2023 #17
Its mind blowing nt XanaDUer2 Jan 2023 #22
That is disgusting. friend of a friend Jan 2023 #26
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