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lees1975

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18. I was raised Baptist as well, and ironically...
Tue May 9, 2023, 10:47 AM
May 2023

Studying Baptist history and the foundations of the doctrine and theology, discovered that what Baptists historically and traditionally believed, as expressed in multiple confessions of faith, is quite different from the hard line fundamentalism that has crept in and taken over. Baptists were the primary influence with the founding fathers, both Madison and Jefferson, in bringing about the establishment clause and separation of church and state. Freedom of conscience is one of the foundational principles of Baptist confessions in America and the emphasis of church life wasn't on pointing out the sinfulness of everyone else, and the wrongness of other Christians, but on the enhancement and fulfillment of life based on the introduction to Jesus' Sermon on the Mount.

It's a long history, involving lots of events, that pushed Baptists from being much like Quakers, who see God as an "inner light," rather than an external deity like the Greek, Roman and Egyptian gods, into fundamentalism. Their structure, which includes churches that are independent and autonomous, rather than ecclesiastically connected, opened the door to infiltration and the influence of uneducated clergy, the Civil War and a lot of other factors turned most, not all, of them into conservative Evangelicals. I've found myself to be much more compatible with some Quakers. And the emphasis on values is what is so compatible with being a Democrat.

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Trump furthered their agenda in ways which won their love. Frasier Balzov May 2023 #1
Or Corinthian. soldierant May 2023 #12
Internal inconsistency also makes people not take one seriously... RockRaven May 2023 #2
I was raised in the Baptist Church and until I was around 50+ I was actually walkingman May 2023 #3
I have family like that, too Alice Kramden May 2023 #4
Now that TFG has his tentacles into every fundagelical church Warpy May 2023 #8
Yes, indoctrination as a child is the key point. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2023 #9
I was raised Baptist as well, and ironically... lees1975 May 2023 #18
My parents were very religious. I started asking questions when I was about 15-16 Deuxcents May 2023 #5
At 18 when I started college and lived on campus I was able to separate from the evangelical MLAA May 2023 #6
Well for starters, Evangelicals believe they have to convert everybody to save them from sin, vlyons May 2023 #7
The pandemic outed many of them as being selfish... TrumanTheTiger May 2023 #10
This makes sense to me. BigmanPigman May 2023 #11
The THREAT they pose should be taken seriously Martin Eden May 2023 #13
They are fascists and racists hiding behind the cross dalton99a May 2023 #14
this is how it's become ... marble falls May 2023 #15
Redemption by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. That theology was for those who had not Karadeniz May 2023 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Karadeniz May 2023 #17
As a regular viewer of MJ, I didn't think much about Joe's evangelical roots, but this was a good CTyankee May 2023 #19
When you follow a False Idol, why should anyone take you seriously. Wonder Why May 2023 #20
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