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TiberiusB

(524 posts)
31. The vote in the House proves your point
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 02:38 AM
Jun 2023

Only the hardcore voted against the bill. Just 20 republicans. The compromise was nothing like the magat faithful wanted, so the only real conclusion you can draw is that the whole thing was pure theater. The deal might be seen as a face saving move for the GOP, and going by the less than glowing press, not even that, but the overwhelming numbers voting for it suggest they were not going to actually risk default. If someone has a better explanation, I'd love to read it. So far, all I see are wildly inflated estimations of the Maga wing's influence. I suspect this stems from their bargain with McCarthy over the speakership, which amplified their caucus in the press and created the sense that they are some unstoppable juggernaut.

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Yea, well, whatever... Chainfire May 2023 #1
That's true, Uncle Joe May 2023 #3
Ahhhhh FarPoint May 2023 #2
Come on, Bernie. Are you back to raging against the Democratic... brush May 2023 #4
So I Rebl2 Jun 2023 #32
Exactly. brush Jun 2023 #33
I just love it when someone... FalloutShelter May 2023 #5
Bernie knows best /sarcasm BootinUp May 2023 #6
The 14th is actually part of the Constitution, the debt limit is just a form of Uncle Joe May 2023 #7
I agree. FalloutShelter May 2023 #8
They are necessary to remind us that deals like this are the exception based on terrorists ColinC May 2023 #11
I believe that's true to some degree, Uncle Joe May 2023 #12
What Is This Goose-Cackle About His Conscience, Sir? The Magistrate May 2023 #9
Performative 'Purity' Malarkey. emulatorloo May 2023 #10
A man of lifelong principle. He never wavered regardless of politics. Peregrine Took May 2023 #13
... Uncle Joe May 2023 #17
As long as he doesn't block the Bill from being voted on, and it passes Freethinker65 May 2023 #14
IMO compromise is essential to a functioning democracy..... anciano May 2023 #15
IMO, extortion is not compromise, Uncle Joe May 2023 #16
White House: 14th Amendment won't solve current debt ceiling standoff sheshe2 May 2023 #18
One thing about that Uncle Joe May 2023 #20
They are cruel and want to destroy America. sheshe2 May 2023 #21
Agreed. President Biden knows what he's doing. anciano May 2023 #22
I agree and if they destroy the Constitution, they have. Uncle Joe May 2023 #23
So. sheshe2 May 2023 #24
From what I can tell Uncle Joe May 2023 #25
So, you have nothing to tell me...or perhaps you just did. sheshe2 May 2023 #27
Do you believe the Republicans in power would also get burned Uncle Joe May 2023 #28
Joe... sheshe2 May 2023 #29
sheshe.. Uncle Joe May 2023 #30
The vote in the House proves your point TiberiusB Jun 2023 #31
I don't think the USSC would rule against it. malthaussen Jun 2023 #35
We have a rogue court...so we can't be sure that if we use the 14th it will stand. I was right Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #38
From my post# 30 Uncle Joe Jun 2023 #40
It could allow our Republic to be destroyed and fascism imposed. We came damn close in the 30's to Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #43
I think what bernie is doing here is boosting the idea that our president has the authority needed questionseverything May 2023 #19
Senator Tim Kaine intends to introduce an amendment against the pipeline in his state Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #26
Might be a signal that this is already a done deal in the Senate. malthaussen Jun 2023 #34
I believe it was all kabuki theater from the get go Uncle Joe Jun 2023 #36
Yep, my feelings exactly. malthaussen Jun 2023 #37
There can be no amendments so it won't change...as you said Kabuki theater... Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #39
By design for the third time in 25 years. Uncle Joe Jun 2023 #41
For the Republicans that is certainly true...but Democrats know what breaching the deb ceiling Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #42
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