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Atypical Liberal

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8. Lots exists from the founders.

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 11:25 PM

Jul 2012

I don't think much of anything exists from "the founders". It seems that part of the Bill of Rights was accepted without much debate. We really have no clue what they would have thought had they had any idea what we'd be faced with now. I would speculate they would be in favor of more restrictions than we have.

This is simply just not the case. There is a lot of information about what the founders thought. All the meeting notes are available for their debates about what to include in the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

There are extensive writings from the era.

The founders created a government with decentralization of power as its main theme. This is why they created a government with three independent branches, and why they continued a decentralized military system.

The second amendment is about keeping military-grade small arms appropriate for infantry use in the hands of the people.

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Bill Moyers: "NRA turned 2nd amendment into a cruel and deadly hoax" [View all] flamingdem Jul 2012 OP

well said DrDan Jul 2012 #1

I've poked around looking for early second amendment debate information. brewens Jul 2012 #2

I think Justice Stevens' Dissent in Heller is an excellent discussion of 2nd Amendment. Hoyt Jul 2012 #4

Let's hope, we need to win congress in Nov. that will help nt flamingdem Jul 2012 #5

Lots exists from the founders. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #8

I meant that there isn't all that much on specifically the second amendment. brewens Jul 2012 #12

Start with Wikipedia Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #15

within the context of a well-regulated state militia magical thyme Jul 2012 #30

But they have several erroneous points. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #32

their point is that the 2nd amendment is very specifically written to address magical thyme Jul 2012 #34

and the dissenters evaluation of the decision is also an interesting read magical thyme Jul 2012 #31

And Congress HAS regulated civilian uses of weapons. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #33

the 2nd amendment is about maintaining state militias magical thyme Jul 2012 #35

That is true. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #37

Fuck the NRA. I'll donate to any politician who publicly states russspeakeasy Jul 2012 #3

You realize the NRA supports Democrats, right? Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #7

Oh my, well in that case iamthebandfanman Jul 2012 #10

Yes, I realize that. That doesn't make the NRA any less despicable. russspeakeasy Jul 2012 #16

Good to know you think supporting Democrats is despicable. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #19

Hey, are you Ron Paul ? russspeakeasy Jul 2012 #20

I don't get it. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #22

K&R. Well said. Overseas Jul 2012 #6

Many errors in his video Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #9

Then the Assault Weapons Ban wasn't strong enough. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #11

+1000 gtar100 Jul 2012 #13

So how would you have changed it? Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #14

And the problem with that is? Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2012 #17

The weapons shown are neither an AK-47 nor an M-1 carbine. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #18

OK, I don't know about those two specific weapons. Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2012 #21

Ah the old "penis" canard. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #23

It's not a canard, it's a major reason why gun nuts collect guns. Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2012 #24

Crock of shit. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #25

A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2012 #27

A question for you. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #28

Latest Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2012 #39

I notice you didn't answer my question: Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #40

Because it's a stupid question, which does not deserve answering Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2012 #42

My question is no more stupid than your statement that prompted it. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #43

You are wrong, it is NOT the job of the Police... MicaelS Jul 2012 #41

well said. DCBob Jul 2012 #38

My guess meanit Jul 2012 #26

Exactly right. K&R! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2012 #29

remember how after 9/11 conservatives said the Constitution isn't a suicide pact? yurbud Jul 2012 #36