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In reply to the discussion: Bill Moyers: "NRA turned 2nd amendment into a cruel and deadly hoax" [View all]Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)43. My question is no more stupid than your statement that prompted it.
Because it's a stupid question, which does not deserve answering
You are the one asserting that guns are penis substitutes. So if it is stupid to ask if you think that women who own and carry firearms are doing so because they want a penis substitute, then your assertion is likewise stupid.
Which, of course, it is.
I will take your refusal to answer the question as acknowledgement that women who carry firearms are not doing so because they want a substitute penis.
On the other hand, Atypical Gun Nut, you have given evidence that you support the violent overthrow of the government, through the use of your penis substitute.
I support the same thing the founders supported - a citizenry armed with military-grade small arms appropriate for military use so that they can fight to preserve the security of free states from enemies both domestic and foreign.
And I notice that you did not answer my considerably more cogent quesion: Why do you need to carry concealed weapons?
I personally do not feel the need to carry a concealed weapon, so I don't. Or rather, it is more hassle than it is worth, since I live in a relatively crime-free neighborhood and my days consist of traveling to work and home again and I am unlikely to ever be a victim of violent crime.
But I respect the right of people who choose to carry a concealed weapon. They really don't have to define a need, because even if there was no benefit to carrying, the fact is that people with CCW permits are hardly ever involved in crime. In fact, based on the data provided by the states that publish such data, people with CCW permits are less likely to be involved in any kind of crime, let alone firearm-related crime, than any other member of the public at large that you may encounter.
So even if there was absolutely no benefit to carrying a concealed weapon at all, it wouldn't matter, because it is essentially harmless to allow it.
But the fact is that CCW permit holders do defend themselves and others with their weapons.
Here is a recent example where a 71-year-old man defended an internet cafe full of people from two armed robbers:
You are the one asserting that guns are penis substitutes. So if it is stupid to ask if you think that women who own and carry firearms are doing so because they want a penis substitute, then your assertion is likewise stupid.
Which, of course, it is.
I will take your refusal to answer the question as acknowledgement that women who carry firearms are not doing so because they want a substitute penis.
On the other hand, Atypical Gun Nut, you have given evidence that you support the violent overthrow of the government, through the use of your penis substitute.
I support the same thing the founders supported - a citizenry armed with military-grade small arms appropriate for military use so that they can fight to preserve the security of free states from enemies both domestic and foreign.
And I notice that you did not answer my considerably more cogent quesion: Why do you need to carry concealed weapons?
I personally do not feel the need to carry a concealed weapon, so I don't. Or rather, it is more hassle than it is worth, since I live in a relatively crime-free neighborhood and my days consist of traveling to work and home again and I am unlikely to ever be a victim of violent crime.
But I respect the right of people who choose to carry a concealed weapon. They really don't have to define a need, because even if there was no benefit to carrying, the fact is that people with CCW permits are hardly ever involved in crime. In fact, based on the data provided by the states that publish such data, people with CCW permits are less likely to be involved in any kind of crime, let alone firearm-related crime, than any other member of the public at large that you may encounter.
So even if there was absolutely no benefit to carrying a concealed weapon at all, it wouldn't matter, because it is essentially harmless to allow it.
But the fact is that CCW permit holders do defend themselves and others with their weapons.
Here is a recent example where a 71-year-old man defended an internet cafe full of people from two armed robbers:
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Bill Moyers: "NRA turned 2nd amendment into a cruel and deadly hoax" [View all]
flamingdem
Jul 2012
OP
I think Justice Stevens' Dissent in Heller is an excellent discussion of 2nd Amendment.
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#4
their point is that the 2nd amendment is very specifically written to address
magical thyme
Jul 2012
#34
and the dissenters evaluation of the decision is also an interesting read
magical thyme
Jul 2012
#31
A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Fortinbras Armstrong
Jul 2012
#27