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lees1975

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18. This issue goes back to before 1948. The Balfour Declaration, from Britain, following World War 1, is the background.
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 02:49 PM
Nov 2023
https://www.un.org/unispal/history2/origins-and-evolution-of-the-palestine-problem/part-i-1917-1947/

The defeat of the Ottoman Empire following World War I by the Triple Entente, mainly Britain and France, set the British on the path to figuring out how to benefit their empire by controlling the territory and going after its resources. The Balfour Declaration, written by British Foreign Secretary Sir Arthur James Balfour, was a statement of sympathy to the aims of Zionism, which aimed to establish in Palestine a national home for the Jewish people. Balfour's declaration also included some idealistic goals, one being that "nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

Obviously, there was a realization that since only a very small number of Jews were resident in Palestine itself, with most of the Jewish population being scattered across Europe, and in other Arab provinces of the Middle East, the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine could result in the displacement of the Arabic population that had lived in Palestine for centuries, and it also could result in the expulsion of Jewish populations from the other countries where they existed as an ethnic and religious minority. If an independent Jewish state was established, then some countries, especially where anti-Semitism was running high, might consider Jews as foreign nationals rather than citizens, and expel them.

Empires can do as they please. I don't know if the reasoning was to allow slow, gradual Jewish immigration into Palestine, so that adjustment could be made to their presence by the Arabic population already there, and perhaps some measure of acceptance, or to use the Jewish presence to further their own interests. I'm not convinced that, under the right circumstances, with progressive, tolerant indigenous leaders in charge, that a single, democratic state could not have existed in Palestine under which both Jews and Arabs could live in peace. Up to this point in the history of the world, human intellect and reason has not been educated enough to become powerful or effective enough to bridge deep-seated religious differences and allow people to live side by side, sharing the same land, in peace.

The idea that there's something in history entitling one group of human beings to take the land, property and prosperity of another is the root of the problem. But trying to solve problems by war or terrorism is ineffective, immoral and inhumane. It's been tried now for 75 years. Maybe both sides are tired enough of the results to try something different now.

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And they were offered a two state marybourg Nov 2023 #1
There is so much to say about this. madaboutharry Nov 2023 #2
"my view is that if people commit major mistakes in history they pay for them." I'd be interested to hear Martin68 Nov 2023 #3
If there were some nation(s) powerful enough to inflict payment on us, marybourg Nov 2023 #7
So, in your view, payment must always be forced. Doesn't that mean might makes right and the Martin68 Nov 2023 #17
What gets me is why was a two-state solution needed back then? brush Nov 2023 #4
Because after 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, in countries marybourg Nov 2023 #5
No, they've not gotten along from the jump. brush Nov 2023 #10
There were ristrictions on immigration. Buzz cook Nov 2023 #8
We can't correct the mistakes of the past. Buzz cook Nov 2023 #6
British colonial arrogance . . . Aussie105 Nov 2023 #9
I agree with you. I've stayed impartial also. brush Nov 2023 #11
How dare Palestinians have hard feelings. Basic LA Nov 2023 #12
Your post is historically inaccurate. madaboutharry Nov 2023 #13
It was their home. Now it's not. Basic LA Nov 2023 #14
This is not what you said in your post. madaboutharry Nov 2023 #15
Not what I said in my post? Basic LA Nov 2023 #16
This issue goes back to before 1948. The Balfour Declaration, from Britain, following World War 1, is the background. lees1975 Nov 2023 #18
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