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Beastly Boy

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15. This is something you will have to explain to me.

Sun May 19, 2024, 10:18 PM

May 2024

I am saying I don't see enough people of the world acknowledging Hamas' responsibility for endangering the innocent Palestinian civilians in Gaza, let alone doing something about it.

You are saying that if there were more concern for the innocent, people of the world would want Hamas stopped. But then, who, if not people of the world, whom I don't see acknowledging Hamas' responsibility for endangering the innocent Palestinian civilians in Gaza, could possibly express more concern for the innocent Gazans to persuade people of the world to want Hamas stopped?

Does this mean that you are relying on the people of the world who appear to show no desire to hold Hamas accountable to persuade the people of the world to hold Hamas accountable?

How is this supposed to work out?

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A free Palestine would be a Taliban-like state, says Salman Rushdie [View all] Beastly Boy May 2024 OP

Intolerable conflicts 'some' seem determined to maintain. elleng May 2024 #1

Thats been pretty obvious for some time now. No surprise. oldsoftie May 2024 #2

Rushdie is a brave man. I won't be surprised if they throw another fatwah at him. JohnSJ May 2024 #3

I guess that depends on... Think. Again. May 2024 #4

Who would stop this? Beastly Boy May 2024 #6

And obviously not netanyahu. Think. Again. May 2024 #7

Certainly not. Beastly Boy May 2024 #8

As I mentioned, maybe if there were more concern for the innocent, non-hamas, Palestinian civilians... Think. Again. May 2024 #9

This is something you will have to explain to me. Beastly Boy May 2024 #15

It means that without broader support... Think. Again. May 2024 #21

I am not arguing with this general sentiment. It sounds very good. Beastly Boy May 2024 #22

I'm not an international lawyer... Think. Again. May 2024 #23

You don't have to be an international lawyer to see the futulity Beastly Boy May 2024 #24

Human's behaving humanely is not wishful thinking. Think. Again. May 2024 #28

Wishful thinking is not humane behaviour. Beastly Boy May 2024 #29

Yes! Goddessartist May 2024 #26

Well, the only country fighting Hamas is Israel, wnylib May 2024 #13

No other country wants any connection.... Think. Again. May 2024 #20

Or, no other country's existence is threatened by Hamas wnylib May 2024 #25

No other country will accept bringing in Palestinians even temporarily. jimfields33 May 2024 #27

How are other countries to blame for Netanyahu/Likud's slaughter of Gazans? brush May 2024 #52

Those countries were begged to take the Palestinians jimfields33 May 2024 #54

Why should Palestinians be expelled so IDF/Netanyahu/Likud can have it? brush May 2024 #56

After the war, they come back. jimfields33 May 2024 #57

A bit naive to think Netanyahu/Likud will let them come back aftef the fighting is over. brush May 2024 #58

So sick of those guys. (N and L) jimfields33 May 2024 #59

On Israel's border. Is it any wonder marybourg May 2024 #5

So Palestine is not free? Eko May 2024 #10

Who would replace Hamas if they were eliminated? Fatah and Abbas aren't exactly very popular either tornado34jh May 2024 #11

That's the question Rushdie sees no answer to. Beastly Boy May 2024 #16

Well, the thing is, Abbas has never really been seen as a strong leader tornado34jh May 2024 #18

I think you've hit on something here. lees1975 May 2024 #19

Rushdie thoughts dcweed May 2024 #12

Israel is the only liberal democracy in the Middle East Beastly Boy May 2024 #33

And yet it is an apartheid regime. So it is a 'liberal democracy (for now) as long as you are the right sort of person. Voltaire2 May 2024 #39

Oh please, this is embarrassing! Beastly Boy May 2024 #41

Actually Freedom House does indicate that its rankings for israel do not include its population in Gaza or the West Bank lees1975 May 2024 #42

Why would you expect the rankings of West Bank or Gaza, Beastly Boy May 2024 #43

What's the difference? lees1975 May 2024 #46

The difference is that Freedom of the World has specific long-established methodology Beastly Boy May 2024 #48

That doesn't make them right. lees1975 May 2024 #49

It makes them accurate and objective. Beastly Boy May 2024 #50

It is embarrassing, but probably not as you imagine. Voltaire2 May 2024 #45

I imagine that the term "apartheid" is being routinely misused and misapplied Beastly Boy May 2024 #47

You're not wrong. nt Mosby May 2024 #60

Palestinian governments, as bad as they are Diraven May 2024 #14

They have. Hamas more so than the PA, but neither tolerates dissent or morality other than their own. Beastly Boy May 2024 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author Beastly Boy May 2024 #32

Are we really arguing that the Palestinians are too savage to govern themselves? ExciteBike66 May 2024 #30

No, we are arguing against the independent Palestinian state becoming like Afghanistan. Beastly Boy May 2024 #31

Any suggestions as to how to facilitate preventing an independent Palestinian state from doing this? lees1975 May 2024 #61

Do the woman and girls of Afghamnistan not deserve thucythucy May 2024 #34

Like Saudi Arabia? Kennah May 2024 #35

Saudi Arabia at least has an economy. Afghanistan doesn't and it doesn't care. LeftInTX May 2024 #44

So long as the oil holds out Kennah May 2024 #62

EXACTLY. "It's quite strange that political progressives supporters a fascist terrorist group." betsuni May 2024 #36

And if/when that happens sarisataka May 2024 #37

Self determination doesn't require anyone else's approval. Voltaire2 May 2024 #38

"Unfortunate" is quite an understatement. Beastly Boy May 2024 #40

WTF? This is the last thing we need. Rushdie needs to STFU. Hamas should have no influence. brush May 2024 #51

Rushdie is warning against Hamas having any influence. He doesn't want Hamas to have any influence. Beastly Boy May 2024 #53

Rushdie says exactly that: Hamas must be banished beforehand FakeNoose May 2024 #55