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limpyhobbler

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8. I completely disagree with what you just said.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:01 PM
Jan 2013
This type of writing is not only hack-kneed and extremely lazy, it is despicable on every level.
Far from being lazy this took quite a a bit of thought to put together. It's not despicable at all. In fact it's quite admirable to speak in defense of our shared values, and to defend the legacy of MLK against comparisons to Obama.

To pretend to know what the current thinking of anyone who has been deceased for over four decades would have been in today's world is as appalling as it is insulting, not to mention utterly ludicrous.
This point is juvenile and trite. Obviously nobody can know what a deceased historical figure would have thought. All adults know that without having to have it spelled out. He's just giving his opinion of what MLK would have done in relation to Obama, based on what he did when he was alive.

Apparently Mr. Ford believes he knows, beyond all doubt, what Dr. King's world view would have been in 2013, without any regard to what events, personal and/or political, might have shaped his opinions in the forty-five years he WASN'T even alive - right down to pretending to know how he would have spent his birthday, fer Chrissakes.
The nature of your complaint makes me think the whole thing is over your head. You're nitpicking on the fact that nobody can know what a dead person thinks. The main point is that Obama does not follow in the political tradition of MLK at all.

If Mr. Ford has a problem with Obama, he should have the balls to state those opinions on his own behalf
He does that all the time. Maybe you should live up to your own standards and say for yourself what you think about the question: If MLK were alive today, would he support Obama's policy of cutting Social Security and Medicare, of indefinite detention and assassination, and obedience to the big banks? Or would he protest against it?

This kind of tripe is beyond deplorable, and stinks of someone trying to validate his own political stance by claiming it would be the same position held by a beloved and highly respected American icon.
To me the point is that Obama is not part of the same political tradition is MLK. Anybody who would try to claim MLK's legacy and pin in on Obama, in order to try to validate Obama's positions, should stop.

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Is Glen Ford speaking for Dr King? Cooley Hurd Jan 2013 #1
Would you care to comment demwing Jan 2013 #2
I agree with it. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #3
You believe Obama demwing Jan 2013 #4
pretty much limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #5
Well there it is /nt demwing Jan 2013 #10
what? limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #19
Listen, I'm glad you are straight forward about your beliefs demwing Jan 2013 #20
"Does Barack Obama represent the political tradition of Martin Luther King?" limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #21
If it deserves serious discussion, then discuss it seriously demwing Jan 2013 #25
It seemed like a serious commentary to me. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #30
What war has he started? obama2terms Jan 2013 #22
I think if MLK were alive he would be harshly critical of Obama's brutal drone warfare policies. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #33
This type of writing Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #6
Very well said...n/t monmouth3 Jan 2013 #7
I completely disagree with what you just said. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #8
It takes absolutely no thought whatsoever Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #15
If MLK were alive today he would be really disappointed in President Obama. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #18
Well let's see here obama2terms Jan 2013 #23
You make a lot of good points and I agree with much of that. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #32
Ah, yet another man Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #24
It's cool to say how a particular political philosopher from history would view modern events. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #35
There is nothing "cool" Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #36
Actually it's very cool to learn about the philosophical ideas of liberation and non-violence limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #39
... Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #41
Do you understand that a person can present their opinion without expressly labeling it an opinion? limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #43
Mr. Ford does not Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #44
I feel like you don't understand how to tell facts from opinions. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #45
It has nothing to do with Obama Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #47
+1 Politicub Jan 2013 #13
Exactly.... Its pure conjecture bullshit Still Sensible Jan 2013 #17
Hiding behind MLK is a great tactic. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #29
hackneyed. Not hack-kneed Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #27
One was a man of peace. The other won the Nobel peace prize. nt cbrer Jan 2013 #9
somehow they both won a Nobel Peace Prize. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #11
Thanks cbrer Jan 2013 #12
You're just a ray of sunshine, aren't you? Politicub Jan 2013 #14
What's your point? limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #16
That "dialogue" with you has very little Shivering Jemmy Jan 2013 #26
That made no sense limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #31
Apparently, today is "Speak for a famous dead person" day. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #28
It's cool to say how a particular political philosopher from history would view modern events. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #34
Actually, you can not make those claims with any authority. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #37
I agree, nobody can actually know 100% for sure how a historical figure would view current events. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #38
But it is not so obvious. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #40
It was his opinion. One doesn't have to say "this is my opinion" because it's implied. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #42
I don't think conflating an activist with a politician or religious leader with a politician is good stevenleser Jan 2013 #46
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