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In reply to the discussion: Make Me Retch: "Obama's 'try anything' bid to woo GOP moves from dinner to golf course" [View all]1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)38. To your first point ...
1) A progressive budget will inevitably pass, since it is the only solution to the countries problems. Shoving it down the R's throat is what the R's actually want.
I, actually, agree ... progress will occur; but not because it is shoved down anyone's throat. Rather, progress occurs over time.
As the your second point:
2) Giving the appearance of compromise, will NEVER work work the R's because their brains are hard wired as Right Wing Authoritarians, in other words, they need to be told what to do by an authority figure, they also need to be punished when they do wrong (just look at how they interact with Obama, these are the only methods they use and understand). Understanding this concept is key to Obama's success, in my view. There is no compromise option, there never was, and never will be.
I have no doubt this is correct about conservatives ... But the "giving the appearance of compromise" is not directed to conservatives; but rather, the 60+% of independent and republican voters (combined) that poll as blaming the gop for its obstruction.
Neither the far right (i.e., conservatives), nor the far Left (i.e., progressives) will be moved to vote any differently than they have historically. But a majority of Democrats, Independents and republicans are "swayable" to vote Democrat.
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Make Me Retch: "Obama's 'try anything' bid to woo GOP moves from dinner to golf course" [View all]
grahamhgreen
May 2013
OP
How does he get Congress to vote for "progressive solutions that have a history of working"?
frazzled
May 2013
#3
FIRST, you have to make a case for it!!! Without that, your fighting for the wrong team.
grahamhgreen
May 2013
#6
It IS a bill. If I prove it to you, will you start listening to us? Obama's budget was DOA, also,
grahamhgreen
May 2013
#23
The reason I disagree is because the proposals on the right have been proven to fail, and the
grahamhgreen
May 2013
#25
Well, your link did not work, but let me address "He knows, just like you, his Proposal including
grahamhgreen
May 2013
#34
He's not running for office agin, ever. "giving the appearance of compromise" has not gained him one
grahamhgreen
May 2013
#39
His compromise on Social Security gives the REPUBLICANS an in to present themselves as the party
grahamhgreen
May 2013
#41
"Rep. Greg Walden, of Oregon, chairman of the National Republican Congressional
grahamhgreen
May 2013
#43
I think you're living in a fantasy land. They can and will use it against each and every Dem running
grahamhgreen
May 2013
#45
Just precious, "willing to try anything" I so love this Hope And Change Man!! Not--
7wo7rees
May 2013
#11
Exactly. They are Right Wing Authoritarians, they want to be told what to do, under fear of
grahamhgreen
May 2013
#19
Too late now, but he could have started by prosecuting some war criminals.
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2013
#30
It is late, but if he wants to be effective, he has to be their boss, not their buddy.
grahamhgreen
May 2013
#33
hate to be the one to say it, but it is "retch" not "wretch" in this context...
CTyankee
May 2013
#21
Your link took me to a bunch of pics that predicted in 2008 that Obama would be the new FDR
Doctor_J
May 2013
#32
"Willing to try anything" - gee, I wonder what future betrayals are in store.
forestpath
May 2013
#37