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MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. What "strategy?" See, there you go again.
Tue May 21, 2013, 12:56 AM
May 2013

You have ideas in your head that are unrelated to my POV.

You're combative and acting like a real jerk, too. I am simply observing how things ARE. I am not a member of the Persian opposition, such as it is, though I wish them well. It's getting very hot in Iran now, but when the weather gets cooler, I hope we see more of them.

And if you think that all the shah did was make trains run on time you really don't understand the social and cultural changes that were FORCED on the population post-revolution (aside from the fact that the Shah never did much with the train system, at least not for passengers...). You would not know about the freedom women had to hold any job they happened to like, you never went to a disco or a swimming pool in Teheran where both sexes enjoyed swimming and sun, or ordered wine with your dinner in mixed, UNRELATED company, at a kebab house. All of this is impossible now.

Any time a nation constrains half their population with religious and moral excuses, that's just wrong. I have a problem with it. It's never acceptable.

Now, if people want to have a meal, a drink or a dance with unrelated people of the opposite sex, they have to do it at a secret "house party," and hope like hell the neighborhood baseej doesn't turn them in for moral turpitude. Those kinds of "crimes" are punished with jail time.

Try walking down the street with someone unrelated to you of the opposite gender and you risk a beating. And heaven help them if their dress is not 'acceptable' to the morality police:



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Brave women. Keep up the pressure. /nt Ash_F May 2013 #1
love those gals Skittles May 2013 #2
It's in their idiotic constitution that women can't be President. MADem May 2013 #3
Hmm? no Ash_F May 2013 #4
Well, having lived there before and after, I beg to differ with Wikipedia on that score. MADem May 2013 #5
While it is true that there are some Iranians who pine for the days of the Shah. Ash_F May 2013 #6
I am not talking about 'pining' for the days of the Shah. MADem May 2013 #8
A clarification Ash_F May 2013 #7
Women had rights under Shah. They're treated like shit under the Guardian Council. MADem May 2013 #9
Your premise is John2 May 2013 #10
No they didn't. MADem May 2013 #11
I'm not naive because John2 May 2013 #12
You plainly have serious gaps in your understanding of how the government works in Iran, MADem May 2013 #13
The only point John2 May 2013 #14
The RG was not part of the Army in 1978, any more than the Baseej is part of the Army now. MADem May 2013 #17
Yeah you are not getting it. Ash_F May 2013 #15
No. Not true at ALL. But "the country" is not "the leadership." MADem May 2013 #16
And that is where you are disconnected from reality due to wishful thinking. Ash_F May 2013 #18
Don't be foolish. The one who is "disconnected from reality" here isn't me. MADem May 2013 #19
You might be more effective if you cut your posts down. Ash_F May 2013 #20
Ah, now you don't like the length of my posts. MADem May 2013 #21
You denigrate the female candidates Ash_F May 2013 #22
You're making things up yet again. MADem May 2013 #23
Another word salad Ash_F May 2013 #24
When you can't rebut the point, you come up with a "pithy" insult. MADem May 2013 #25
So.. 40 years of your strategy has gotten you what exactly? Ash_F May 2013 #26
What "strategy?" See, there you go again. MADem May 2013 #27
Rings hollow. Ash_F May 2013 #28
What rings hollow is your childish attempts to pick fights, replete with snark and empty commentary. MADem May 2013 #29
You seem quite disheveled Ash_F May 2013 #30
You 'seem' to be wearing out your dictionary--"disheveled" you say? MADem May 2013 #31
Quoting Mitt Romney? Ash_F May 2013 #32
Now you're going about as low as you can manage--first you use personal insults, and then you MADem May 2013 #33
"But....but....this one is worse!!!" Ash_F May 2013 #34
You read what you want to read. And your understanding of the country is MADem May 2013 #35
Again with the links.... Ash_F May 2013 #36
I shouldn't bother because you don't read them. MADem May 2013 #37
OK, I went ahead and read them Ash_F May 2013 #38
Those are the poor who live in the south of the city. MADem May 2013 #39
this thread has been an interesting read treestar May 2013 #40
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