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John2

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19. I've been
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:38 PM
Jun 2013

on the stand before. I think she is a very important witness, but there are other witnesses, testimony that collaborates what she said and the forensic evidence like you said. The bottomline, I don't even Zimmerman has a justification for Perfect Self Defense period, because he was at fault, even if Trayvon attacked him. He was advised not to pursue Trayvon.

If the definition includes last resort, Zimmerman didn't use last resort. They are claiming the aggression happened when Zimmerman caught up with Martin. The aggression beganned when Zimmerman pursued Martin with a loaded deadly weapon on him. The pursuit caused the provocation. I'm also insinuating own testimony on the 911 call incriminates him with his description of Martin. He had the choice to pursue a person that might be dangerous and armed. The very fact that he needed to approach Martin with a loaded gun, indicates it. So I do not see where the justification for self defense with Deadly force applies here, because he did not use every option available to him. That enough to me is why he should be found guilty without a reasonable doubt.

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K&R Dalai_1 Jun 2013 #1
Give people more credit. Last night on the last word upaloopa Jun 2013 #2
good point. I think I understand what the writer is saying, but I think most of us can empathize spooky3 Jun 2013 #11
read todays thread about the live feed and upaloopa Jun 2013 #15
I'm white... Wait Wut Jun 2013 #3
Research shows that juries typically work hard to make unbiased judgments. I think bad outcomes spooky3 Jun 2013 #13
I'm Black, John2 Jun 2013 #14
but fortunately, it is not her job as a witness to have to make the defense attorney look stupid spooky3 Jun 2013 #17
I've been John2 Jun 2013 #19
You may well be right - my point is just that I am not as pessimistic as some people here are. The spooky3 Jun 2013 #20
'what white people dont understand' markiv Jun 2013 #4
I know exactly what Ms. Jeantel is going through--I've been there personally. AndyA Jun 2013 #5
I watched about 5 minutes of her early testimony from yesterday Schema Thing Jun 2013 #6
Thanks for pointing this out. I am white and I "thought" russspeakeasy Jun 2013 #7
I understand her and I am as white as this background Skittles Jun 2013 #8
i don't think this article is about any particular white person, like the Duers in this thread noiretextatique Jun 2013 #9
I understand what you're saying. hamsterjill Jun 2013 #10
Knock, knock? HockeyMom Jun 2013 #12
I don't think she comes off well because you just can't understand what she is saying. southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #16
There is John2 Jun 2013 #22
Well I understand that. My own mother came from another country and has a heavy accent. southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #23
She is credible and never swayed from her testimony. JimDandy Jun 2013 #27
She stood her ground. But she was a terrible witness. But I hope the jury just looks southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author JimDandy Jun 2013 #34
Well I pray your right. There was so much clutter in the conversation but she did stand her ground. southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #36
Yes, because white people can't possibly understand... bobclark86 Jun 2013 #18
Not Just White People erpowers Jun 2013 #21
Very good point. People who are curious and learn about others are flamingdem Jun 2013 #28
She has some grit pscot Jun 2013 #24
I hope this author is wrong. yurbud Jun 2013 #25
I do understand KT2000 Jun 2013 #26
I think she was totally awesome! Cronus Protagonist Jun 2013 #29
She didn't help her likability with customerserviceguy Jun 2013 #30
so how did tub'o'lard outrun football player in a footrace? nt quadrature Jun 2013 #31
That's how. Mira Jun 2013 #32
Zimmerman was a fit MMA-trained fighting machine JimDandy Jun 2013 #37
The photo of this women provides a very polished professional young women and midnight Jun 2013 #35
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