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In reply to the discussion: More bad science in the service of anti-GMO activism [View all]roseBudd
(8,718 posts)9. I am not an agronomist, so I look to the experts...
Dr. Kevin Folta told me in an email: ..."I think many people would find it curious that the anti-GM movement helps keep the power of Big Ag in a few hands."
I also have a friend who is an agronomist. She confirmed that Dr. Folta, is an "aggy"
http://randomrationality.com/2013/03/18/qa-the-lowdown-on-gmos-with-kevin-folta/
Why are GMOs are so misunderstood? Kevin Folta, a plant geneticist at the University of Florida, explains the misconceptions that animate anti-GMO campaigners. As Folta has it, the debate is entirely in the minds of campaigners; the science is settled as to the safety of GM crops.
Fourat (Me) - What is the main thing (or is it general) about GMOs that the public routinely confuse, or get wrong, when discussing and debating their impact?
Kevin Folta - There are so many misconceptions. The first is a fundamental one, that being that there is a debate at all. There is no debate among scientists in the discipline of plant molecular biology and crop science. Sure you can find someone here and there that disagrees, but there is no active debate in the literature driven by data. There are no hard reproducible data that indicate that transgenics are dangerous or more potentially dangerous than traditionally bred plant products.
Kevin Folta: If I had to nail down the most annoying misconceptions they would include that all scientists are just dupes of big multinational ag companies. Anyone that presents the consensus of scientific interpretation of the literature is immediately discounted as some corporate pawn. Theres nothing further from the truth. Most of us are hanging on by a thread in the days of dwinding federal, state and local support for research. The attacks on the credibility of good scientists hurts our chances to stay in academic labs and consider the cushy salaries and job security with the big ag corporate monstrosities we chose not to work for when we took jobs working for the public good. Thats pretty sad.
There is this allegation that we hide data or dont publish work that is inconsistent with corporate desires. They need to get one thing straight. Were not in the public sector because we are excited about listening to some corporate mandates. No thanks. Were here for scientific freedom and to discover the exceptions to the rules and define new paradigms.
If my lab had a slight hint that GMOs were dangerous, Id do my best to repeat that study, get a collaborator to repeat it independently, and then publish the data on the covers of Science, Nature and every news outlet that would take it. It would rock the world. Showing that 70-some percent of our food was poisonous? That would be a HUGE story were talking Nobel Prize and free Amys Organic Pot Pies for life! Finding the rule breakers is what were in it for, but to break rules takes massive, rigorous data. So far, we dont even have a good thread of evidence to start with.
Me - In what ways might GMOs be most beneficial to our biosphere, and why might organics not be as good as to get us there?
Kevin Folta - There is no doubt that transgenic plants can be designed to limit pest damage with lower pesticide applications. That is well documented by the National Academies of Science, the best unbiased brains in our nation. Most data is for cotton and maize, and show substantial reductions (like 60%). Transgenic potatoes were amazingly successful in Romania until they joined the EU and had to go back to insecticide-intensive agriculture. Even glyphosate resistance traits, for all of their drawbacks in creating new resistant weeds, replace toxic alternatives.
Conventional farming takes fuel, labor, fungicides, pesticides, nematicides and many other inputs. Water and fertilizer are in there too. There are genes out there in the literature that address most of these issues. Scientists in academic labs discover these genes and define their function in lab-based GMOs that never are used outside the lab. The regulatory hoops are too difficult and expensive. Only the big companies can play in that space. Even little companies like Okanagan Specialty Fruits have to deal with the nonsense from those that hate the technology. Opposition to the science keeps the big guys in business, because nobody else can compete.
Fourat (Me) - What is the main thing (or is it general) about GMOs that the public routinely confuse, or get wrong, when discussing and debating their impact?
Kevin Folta - There are so many misconceptions. The first is a fundamental one, that being that there is a debate at all. There is no debate among scientists in the discipline of plant molecular biology and crop science. Sure you can find someone here and there that disagrees, but there is no active debate in the literature driven by data. There are no hard reproducible data that indicate that transgenics are dangerous or more potentially dangerous than traditionally bred plant products.
Kevin Folta: If I had to nail down the most annoying misconceptions they would include that all scientists are just dupes of big multinational ag companies. Anyone that presents the consensus of scientific interpretation of the literature is immediately discounted as some corporate pawn. Theres nothing further from the truth. Most of us are hanging on by a thread in the days of dwinding federal, state and local support for research. The attacks on the credibility of good scientists hurts our chances to stay in academic labs and consider the cushy salaries and job security with the big ag corporate monstrosities we chose not to work for when we took jobs working for the public good. Thats pretty sad.
There is this allegation that we hide data or dont publish work that is inconsistent with corporate desires. They need to get one thing straight. Were not in the public sector because we are excited about listening to some corporate mandates. No thanks. Were here for scientific freedom and to discover the exceptions to the rules and define new paradigms.
If my lab had a slight hint that GMOs were dangerous, Id do my best to repeat that study, get a collaborator to repeat it independently, and then publish the data on the covers of Science, Nature and every news outlet that would take it. It would rock the world. Showing that 70-some percent of our food was poisonous? That would be a HUGE story were talking Nobel Prize and free Amys Organic Pot Pies for life! Finding the rule breakers is what were in it for, but to break rules takes massive, rigorous data. So far, we dont even have a good thread of evidence to start with.
Me - In what ways might GMOs be most beneficial to our biosphere, and why might organics not be as good as to get us there?
Kevin Folta - There is no doubt that transgenic plants can be designed to limit pest damage with lower pesticide applications. That is well documented by the National Academies of Science, the best unbiased brains in our nation. Most data is for cotton and maize, and show substantial reductions (like 60%). Transgenic potatoes were amazingly successful in Romania until they joined the EU and had to go back to insecticide-intensive agriculture. Even glyphosate resistance traits, for all of their drawbacks in creating new resistant weeds, replace toxic alternatives.
Conventional farming takes fuel, labor, fungicides, pesticides, nematicides and many other inputs. Water and fertilizer are in there too. There are genes out there in the literature that address most of these issues. Scientists in academic labs discover these genes and define their function in lab-based GMOs that never are used outside the lab. The regulatory hoops are too difficult and expensive. Only the big companies can play in that space. Even little companies like Okanagan Specialty Fruits have to deal with the nonsense from those that hate the technology. Opposition to the science keeps the big guys in business, because nobody else can compete.
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