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marmar

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Thu Jan 12, 2012, 09:49 PM Jan 2012

Robert Fisk: This is not about 'bad apples'. This is the horror of war [View all]


from the Independent UK:



Robert Fisk: This is not about 'bad apples'. This is the horror of war
How many other abuses took place off camera? How many Hadithas? How many My Lais?


So now it's snapshots of US Marines pissing on the Afghan dead. Better, I suppose, than the US soldiers pictured beside the innocent Afghan teenager they fragged back in March of last year. Or the female guard posing with the dead Iraqi prisoner at Abu Ghraib. Not to mention Haditha or the murder videos taken by US troops in the field – the grenading of an old shepherd by an Iraqi highway comes to mind – or My Lai or the massacre of refugees by US forces in Korea or the murder of Malayan villagers by British troops. Or the Bloody Sunday massacre of 14 Catholics by British troops in Derry in 1972. And please note, I have not even mentioned the name of Baha Mousa.

The US Marines' response to the pissing pictures was oh so typical. These men were not abiding by the "core values" of the Marines, we were informed. Same old story. A "rogue" unit, a few "bad apples", rotten eggs. Maybe.

But if there is one game of pissing on the dead, how many others happened without pictures? How many other shepherds got fragged in Iraq? How many other Hadithas have there been? There were plenty of other My Lais.

As laptop filmography gets better, so it all comes slopping out, the rapes and slaughter – and yes, by the Taliban the stoning of young women for supposed sexual misconduct in Afghanistan; by al-Qa'ida, executions and throat-cuttings in Iraq. ..........(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-this-is-not-about-bad-apples-this-is-the-horror-of-war-6289046.html



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If you like war, you like atrocities. nm rhett o rick Jan 2012 #1
Du rec. Nt xchrom Jan 2012 #2
War..horror of War..Sand Creek, November 29, 1869..American Troops did this: Stuart G Jan 2012 #3
I am uncomfortable with blanket accusations against me and my work Muskypundit Jan 2012 #4
Define 'Us' Blacksheep214 Jan 2012 #5
Don't apologize.... backtomn Jan 2012 #6
Have you read Military.com? Blacksheep214 Jan 2012 #7
Good thing military.com is not in charge of the military judicial system Muskypundit Jan 2012 #8
You are right, the pissers will be charged. I ask this question. Stuart G Jan 2012 #22
I'm glad someone mentioned AFN deacon_sephiroth Jan 2012 #11
The problem is the good soldiers not policing the bad ones. Sirveri Jan 2012 #14
I have always been deployed as psyop Muskypundit Jan 2012 #19
Boys Will Be Boys Defense DallasNE Jan 2012 #16
That was not a boys will be boys defense Muskypundit Jan 2012 #17
And shitty actions come from more than just those in a uniform. Muskypundit Jan 2012 #18
I Served In The Military DallasNE Jan 2012 #20
Yes indeed malaise Jan 2012 #9
malaise is correct..."War is Evil" Stuart G Jan 2012 #10
War encourages demonization of your adversary--even though Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2012 #12
Your adversary is probably another terrified 19-year-old, someone you wouldn't normally want to kill Stuart G Jan 2012 #23
so, let me get this straight...... Scottybeamer70 Jan 2012 #13
so...it ain't about killing, it is about how we treat the dead, after we kill them.. ???? Stuart G Jan 2012 #15
Cry Havoc cbrer Jan 2012 #21
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