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Reply to bemildred (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2013, 07:02 AM

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Edward Snowden Had No Way Out [View all] bemildred Aug 2013 OP

Consent of the governed is not consent if it is not informed. Th1onein Aug 2013 #1

Yep, you got it, that's the argument. bemildred Aug 2013 #2

I, for one, am not willing to let this go. Th1onein Aug 2013 #3

Yep, it's a grenade, all right, might cause some splatter. bemildred Aug 2013 #4

But but but... mindwalker_i Aug 2013 #5

Yeah, and his girlfriend is a pole dancer and he's got BOXES in his garage! Th1onein Aug 2013 #7

This ignores that every major fact was included in some Congresssional hearing or speech karynnj Aug 2013 #6

Nope, not gonna fly. Th1onein Aug 2013 #9

The things that many are saying they did not know karynnj Aug 2013 #14

Sorry, not buying. Th1onein Aug 2013 #27

What do you think about the argument the OP makes? bemildred Aug 2013 #16

I get the points it is making, but disagree with their assumption that the law was made in secret karynnj Aug 2013 #17

Thank you. bemildred Aug 2013 #18

Snowden gave out classified material which detailed the expicit implementation of the law karynnj Aug 2013 #19

I don't give a damn about that. bemildred Aug 2013 #20

Again, I disagree with your premise karynnj Aug 2013 #22

Yes, and I disagree with yours. So does the US Constitution. bemildred Aug 2013 #23

Nowhere did I say that government empoyees have either the right or duty to lie karynnj Aug 2013 #24

The Constitution says we own the government, not that the government owns us. bemildred Aug 2013 #25

I have a lot of company as well - the vast majority of people in this country karynnj Aug 2013 #26

Like I said, I don't see anywhere we can go here. We have no common assumptions. bemildred Aug 2013 #28

Your obvious condescension in your earlier post is not a winning argument either karynnj Aug 2013 #37

That was a compliment, a gesture of respect. bemildred Aug 2013 #38

Why don't you just read their lips? Th1onein Aug 2013 #29

There is always a choice when you betray your Country. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #8

Which is why it is good someone is revealing to us those that are betraying our country... cascadiance Aug 2013 #11

He did not need to release classified information to do what you are speaking of karynnj Aug 2013 #15

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. bemildred Aug 2013 #21

What warrantless snooping on citizens has been occurring since 2009? Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #10

NSA broke privacy rules thousands of times per year, audit finds bemildred Aug 2013 #32

Did you observe the results of this audit or did you just see the headlines of thousands per year? Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #33

Why don't you read up on it yourself and share? bemildred Aug 2013 #34

I did read the link, it shows a the percentages of operator errors, etc and this is from operators Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #35

I've known since the 1970s my government is watching me. bemildred Aug 2013 #36

du rec. xchrom Aug 2013 #12

Snowden is a coward. stonecutter357 Aug 2013 #13

Kick And Recommend cantbeserious Aug 2013 #30

We are debating law tradition when we should be debating the law system polynomial Aug 2013 #31