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elleng

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13. Distorted the US role in history?
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 11:29 PM
Aug 2013

'We didn't like him (the shah.) He wasn't democratic enough. His secret police were really tough and they tortured people, and so we encouraged the emergence of a democratic movement.

The generals tried to warn the Americans, they said be careful, you're playing with fire and you're going to let Ayatollah Khomeini come back in. We sent in an American general over to tell the Iranian generals back off. So for about 60 days we kept the military from intervening in Iran.

During that period, the revolution coalesced, the military forces fell apart, extreme Islamists took over and at that point, the Carter administration said, oh my goodness, get the general to take control, don't let this happen. And the general said, we waited too long, we have no forces, and a few months later all the generals had been shot, and we have Iran today.'

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Interesting, thanks. bemildred Aug 2013 #1
Didn't the US overthrow a democracy and install the Shah? delrem Aug 2013 #2
Why yes, I think we did. bemildred Aug 2013 #3
My problem is that Clark is now speaking in retrospect. delrem Aug 2013 #5
Eh. I'm not "supporting" him, I'm just not willing to dump on him. bemildred Aug 2013 #6
I like your posts, bemildred, delrem Aug 2013 #7
I don't like to do personalities and groupthink much. It muddies the water. bemildred Aug 2013 #10
and he wasn't 'in power' then, either, elleng Aug 2013 #11
OK, and the Egyptian military coup just slaughtered over 600 people. delrem Aug 2013 #12
Distorted the US role in history? elleng Aug 2013 #13
He IS smart, intelligent, and honest, elleng Aug 2013 #9
That's what I remember. bemildred Aug 2013 #15
True. truebluegreen Aug 2013 #27
And we may yet have a mess, if Badr/Tamarrud get their way (per der Spiegel) Igel Aug 2013 #4
Poe? The Raven? bemildred Aug 2013 #8
'sweetly knocking on the door of my room, this and nothing more' elleng Aug 2013 #14
I gave it up after High School, wish I had not. bemildred Aug 2013 #16
Right, can't do everything! elleng Aug 2013 #17
French in college, as well. Igel Aug 2013 #19
I had that happen to me. bemildred Aug 2013 #21
That's SOME learning experience! elleng Aug 2013 #22
It still feels strange. bemildred Aug 2013 #24
Good of you. elleng Aug 2013 #25
Good for me is how I think of it. bemildred Aug 2013 #26
With ? 3 years high school French, elleng Aug 2013 #23
Indeed. Mallarme's translation. Igel Aug 2013 #18
LOL. Good translation is wizardry, magic, instinct. bemildred Aug 2013 #20
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