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HuckleB

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324. It is true, on multiple fronts.

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 08:55 PM

Oct 2013

Supplements often don't contain what they claim they contain.

Further, they almost always don't do what the company claims they do.

This is ugly malpractice. It is a scam. And supporting is despicable.

Oh, and that's being kind. There is simply no justification for your ugly attacks against consumers.

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That herbal supplement may not be what you think it is, scientists find [View all] HuckleB Oct 2013 OP

The pharma industry has been pushing for regulation for decades. NOT a good idea. Th1onein Oct 2013 #1

Lol jberryhill Oct 2013 #2

Why would you buy from someone who lies about what's in their product? Th1onein Oct 2013 #67

There is no regulation, and, yes, they all lie about the evidence of the benefits. HuckleB Oct 2013 #70

You are just flat out wrong. Th1onein Oct 2013 #72

Oh, so you think the FDA should just cut and run on Big Pharma? HuckleB Oct 2013 #74

My motivation is FACTS. Th1onein Oct 2013 #81

You have a reputation for not caring about the science of most things. HuckleB Oct 2013 #83

No, honey, quite the contrary. Unlike you, I do my homework. Th1onein Oct 2013 #85

You make a lot claims, but you offer no evidence. HuckleB Oct 2013 #87

See the first article on that page? That's my research. Th1onein Oct 2013 #96

the pubmed link comes up as the Blank search page. GeorgeGist Oct 2013 #104

Are you kidding or lying? Here's the links again; I tested them myself, before posting. Th1onein Oct 2013 #122

The Nova publishers link does go to a listing for a book on cystic fibrosis, StrayKat Oct 2013 #301

Try not to make claims that you can't support. HuckleB Oct 2013 #105

It's funny how the regulations you want are the same ones Big Pharma wants. Th1onein Oct 2013 #147

It's funny how you use these tired libertarian baloney excuses. HuckleB Oct 2013 #172

I support CONSUMERS who don't want to pay $750 a month for their Vitamin C. Th1onein Oct 2013 #177

Hogwash. You support BILLION DOLLAR SCUMBAG SUPPLEMENT COMPANIES! HuckleB Oct 2013 #179

Even YOUR OP states that two of the companies tested (and they didn't test many) Th1onein Oct 2013 #188

My OP is about one study. HuckleB Oct 2013 #189

WHERE ARE THE OTHERS? WHERE'S YOUR SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS? Th1onein Oct 2013 #195

Oh, that's right those blog posts by science address, cover and link to studies. HuckleB Oct 2013 #208

Is that really all you got? Personal attacks? Th1onein Oct 2013 #201

I've got the clear consensus of science behind me. HuckleB Oct 2013 #209

You keep saying that, but you post NOTHING to support it. Th1onein Oct 2013 #227

You have lied about that repeatedly. HuckleB Oct 2013 #230

Everyone here can see what you posted, HuckleB. Th1onein Oct 2013 #232

You are lying again. Everyone can see that. HuckleB Oct 2013 #234

I see not one article that can be referenced on any scientific indice; not ONE. Th1onein Oct 2013 #240

And you lie again. HuckleB Oct 2013 #242

Really? Then why don't you post the indices where they are referenced? Th1onein Oct 2013 #245

You are only playing games. HuckleB Oct 2013 #274

I think you missed the turn for the site more to your liking Bill USA Oct 2013 #307

Kids are certainly better at science and integrity than you are, Bill. HuckleB Oct 2013 #309

Proper diet carla Oct 2013 #308

Proper diet is all most people need. HuckleB Oct 2013 #310

If you think the FDA keeps us safe from big pharma, I have some swamp land to sell you. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #253

Absolutely correct, WCLinolVir. The FDA is hand in hand with Big Pharma. Th1onein Oct 2013 #257

Yep. It never ceases to amaze me just how vulnerable the public is thanks to the FDA. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #260

Big Pharma needs more regulation. HuckleB Oct 2013 #275

Just curious wercal Oct 2013 #145

Absolutely not. And it's not knee jerk. Th1onein Oct 2013 #148

How many 'new' supplement applications wercal Oct 2013 #150

How many supplements are there? How does this system work now for drugs out of patent? Th1onein Oct 2013 #153

What other government regulation are you wercal Oct 2013 #156

I'm not against any government regulation, per se. But this law? No. It will devastate consumers. Th1onein Oct 2013 #158

Well I don't see any bill being sponsored wercal Oct 2013 #160

They try to slip them in tacked onto other bills, AND pass them by themselves. Th1onein Oct 2013 #169

I'd like to see an example of one of these bills. wercal Oct 2013 #183

Don't worry. Big Supplement has plenty of sway with Congress. HuckleB Oct 2013 #192

Dietary Supplement Labeling Act (S 1310) - 2011 Th1onein Oct 2013 #193

Well I read the bill here: wercal Oct 2013 #264

It subjects supplement ingredients to the same testing that drugs are tested with. Th1onein Oct 2013 #265

Well the entire text of that bill is at the link I listed wercal Oct 2013 #267

Sorry, might have posted the wrong one. I think this is it. Th1onein Oct 2013 #268

Ok, it looks like this is already law, originally passed in 1938 wercal Oct 2013 #270

+1000 HuckleB Oct 2013 #163

you can find quality suppliers with a little effort Bill USA Oct 2013 #263

You've got to be kidding me. HuckleB Oct 2013 #299

yes, keep on making sweeping, entirely unsupported statements & maybe they will magically come true Bill USA Oct 2013 #302

First, you are misrepresenting this study. HuckleB Oct 2013 #304

HOW AM I MISREPRESENTING TH STUDY U REFERRED TO? I QUOTED FROM THE ARTICLE ON UNIVERSITY OF GUELPH Bill USA Oct 2013 #306

You quote out of context. HuckleB Oct 2013 #312

I gave a link to the article on the Univ of Guelph website. anybody can click on it and read what Bill USA Oct 2013 #313

You have yet to offer anything that is accurate or intellectually honest. HuckleB Oct 2013 #316

the information I quoted is from the conclusions of the study you referred to in OP Bill USA Oct 2013 #317

You seem to think that quoting out of context is ok. HuckleB Oct 2013 #325

Now why would you claim something the study you posted about does not make? Bill USA Oct 2013 #305

I wasn't talking about the study in that post. HuckleB Oct 2013 #311

OH, you weren't talking about the study you started this thread about, the one you refer to in th OP Bill USA Oct 2013 #314

Then act like an adult. HuckleB Oct 2013 #315

you're making noises without making any sense. I guess you feel you don't have to be constrained by Bill USA Oct 2013 #318

That would be you. HuckleB Oct 2013 #321

Hoping if you say it enough times, it will magically become true? Bill USA Oct 2013 #322

"Magic" is all you have to justify your ugly, corporate crap. HuckleB Oct 2013 #326

Are you that naive, or do you think I am? jberryhill Oct 2013 #102

People need education about supplements; not more regulation. Th1onein Oct 2013 #131

This is libertarian hogwash. HuckleB Oct 2013 #190

Really? Is that why the FDA agrees with me? And the GAO, too! Th1onein Oct 2013 #196

The GAO does not agree with you. HuckleB Oct 2013 #206

Sorry, HuckleB, they DO agree with me. So does the FDA. Th1onein Oct 2013 #210

All of your nonsense is an ugly attack. You have lied repeatedly. Including here. HuckleB Oct 2013 #214

Stop with the personal attacks, HuckleB. I've posted links to PubMed. Do they lie? Th1onein Oct 2013 #225

How many times do I have to explain the value of preliminary studies and even small, single reviews? HuckleB Oct 2013 #228

Did you read the REVIEWS, HuckleB? Th1onein Oct 2013 #236

Let me get this straight, we're supposed to by into your cherry picked nothingness? HuckleB Oct 2013 #237

You have posted blog posts, on varying topics, and called that a consensus on one topic. Th1onein Oct 2013 #243

And you lie yet again. HuckleB Oct 2013 #244

Your posts speak for themselves. Everyone here can see them. Th1onein Oct 2013 #249

Yes, they can. HuckleB Oct 2013 #276

Big Pharma would love to regulate itself. HuckleB Oct 2013 #6

FDA regulates both finished dietary supplement products and dietary ingredients. SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2013 #11

Now you're spamming this nonsense. HuckleB Oct 2013 #12

I am not PUSHING anything. SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2013 #15

Your history is not good. HuckleB Oct 2013 #17

The Science Based Medicine website is a joke. Try, life extension foundation SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2013 #22

"Life extension" is a supplement seller, pushing bad science. It is not legitimate. HuckleB Oct 2013 #23

The GAO Report on Supplement Regulation HuckleB Oct 2013 #19

WHAT SUPPLIMENTS DO YOU USE??? SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2013 #26

You're the same guy pushing a supplement seller as a good source of information. HuckleB Oct 2013 #27

There it is. Been waiting for the mocking emoticon. You were slow today. SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2013 #30

All of those questions have been answered long ago. HuckleB Oct 2013 #31

This board is not just for you and me. Let other know where you stand. SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2013 #33

You're pushing red herring because the evidence is against you. HuckleB Oct 2013 #37

How do you feel about Vitamin D SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2013 #42

Everyone needs vitamin D. HuckleB Oct 2013 #47

and you push blogs as source of information. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #36

And I push accurate sources of information. HuckleB Oct 2013 #40

You post crap from blogs and call it a "scientific consensus." It's laughable. Th1onein Oct 2013 #142

What's laughable is that you are incapable of understanding reality. HuckleB Oct 2013 #164

Personal attack. You lose. Th1onein Oct 2013 #200

Derp. HuckleB Oct 2013 #217

You neglect to say that the GAO concluded that supplements were safe. Th1onein Oct 2013 #197

There are multiple studies showing problems with supplements. HuckleB Oct 2013 #218

So, NOW, you admit that they are safe, but only because you HAD to. Th1onein Oct 2013 #229

I never said they were or weren't safe. You are lying, again. HuckleB Oct 2013 #231

QUOTE: "218. There are multiple studies showing problems with supplements." Th1onein Oct 2013 #246

Are you saying there aren't? HuckleB Oct 2013 #277

What FDA???? There is no FDA. valerief Oct 2013 #29

but duece bigalo said that regulations are what's killing his suplemental biz leftyohiolib Oct 2013 #3

The world's most dangerous moment is upon us (Fukushima) SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2013 #4

Regulation should include companies proving the claims they make for their products. HuckleB Oct 2013 #5

Again you fail to discuss your post. SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2013 #7

I posted an article about a study. To call it biased material is simply ludicrous. HuckleB Oct 2013 #8

FDA regulates both finished dietary supplement products and dietary ingredients. SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2013 #9

Not really, and you know it. HuckleB Oct 2013 #10

I do not care. There are many more serious issues to consider. SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2013 #13

There may be "bigger" issues, but this is not a small one. HuckleB Oct 2013 #16

Can YOU tell me your deepest concern? SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2013 #18

It is quite clear that there are nowhere near enough regulations. HuckleB Oct 2013 #20

DO YOU HAVE TROUBLE FINDING GOOD SUPPLIMENTS? SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2013 #24

And another red herring is offered up. HuckleB Oct 2013 #25

No. Suppliments can not tie your shoes. SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2013 #28

So you think the clear consensus of the science is a straw man. HuckleB Oct 2013 #32

I don't think so, HuckleB. Th1onein Oct 2013 #68

No, you are spouting a corporatist, anti-regulation line. HuckleB Oct 2013 #69

Sorry, but you are ignorant. I am not. Th1onein Oct 2013 #73

You don't seem to be able to support any of your claims. HuckleB Oct 2013 #75

Oh, because YOU say they're debunked, then they must be debunked. Load of crap. Th1onein Oct 2013 #80

And you continue with your logical fallacy. HuckleB Oct 2013 #82

I'm not going to waste my time with you. Th1onein Oct 2013 #84

I do know what the consensus is, AND I've shown it. HuckleB Oct 2013 #88

ONE article, wherein even the AUTHORS admit that the sample size is too small to generalize, Th1onein Oct 2013 #91

Why do you pretend the consensus is based on one study? HuckleB Oct 2013 #107

ONE ARTICLE IS NOT A CONSENSUS. What is it about that, that you don't get? Th1onein Oct 2013 #94

Multiple studies. HuckleB Oct 2013 #106

If there are multiple studies, POST THEM. Th1onein Oct 2013 #120

You know that some of them have been posted on this thread already. HuckleB Oct 2013 #124

It's very simple. POST THEM. Th1onein Oct 2013 #140

It's very simple. I've posted some already. HuckleB Oct 2013 #165

Yeah, I saw those blog posts. Wow, what a "scientific consensus" you got there! Th1onein Oct 2013 #185

Your dishonesty is out of this world. HuckleB Oct 2013 #191

Why rely on what I say? How about the GAO report on supplements? Th1onein Oct 2013 #194

The GAO is calling for more regulation. HuckleB Oct 2013 #213

BUT NOT THE REGULATION THAT YOU ARE CALLING FOR! YOU ARE MISREPRESENTING THE FACTS! Th1onein Oct 2013 #248

Those are not all the GAO's recommendations. HuckleB Oct 2013 #278

You misrepresent them, as I'd already shown in post 14. HuckleB Oct 2013 #298

The GAO Report on Supplement Regulation HuckleB Oct 2013 #14

Life Extension Foundation - check it out. SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2013 #45

They are pushing the same non-science based BS as the rest of them. HuckleB Oct 2013 #53

However, over the past two decades, our truedelphi Oct 2013 #63

You're justification for supplement company shenanigans is to offer up a red herring? HuckleB Oct 2013 #64

Over my dead body. truedelphi Oct 2013 #152

Hogwash. HuckleB Oct 2013 #166

Day-um! EVERYBODY seems to have this obsession with you, HuckleB! Th1onein Oct 2013 #99

Only the usual anti-vaccine, big supplement loving suspects. HuckleB Oct 2013 #110

I am in the body building hobby fitman Oct 2013 #44

Since the evidence says most of them do nothing, although some may cause harm... HuckleB Oct 2013 #55

Funny you would say that, HuckleB. Because that's EXACTLY what Big Pharma is pushing for. Th1onein Oct 2013 #100

Ah, the shill gambit. HuckleB Oct 2013 #108

Why do you want BIG PHARMA to screw people? Th1onein Oct 2013 #144

I don't. Why do you think putting words in the mouths of others is ok? HuckleB Oct 2013 #167

Big Pharma words are coming out of your mouth. Th1onein Oct 2013 #181

And the baseless personal attacks continue. HuckleB Oct 2013 #184

I've attacked your information, not you. I can't say that you've done the same with me, HuckleB. Th1onein Oct 2013 #199

You have not attacked my information in any way. HuckleB Oct 2013 #220

Over and over again, I've attacked your information. Th1onein Oct 2013 #238

The scientific consensus is astoundingly clear. HuckleB Oct 2013 #241

It's astoundingly clear that there is no scientific consensus. Th1onein Oct 2013 #250

Only in your fantasy world. HuckleB Oct 2013 #279

ONE ARTICLE DOES NOT MAKE A CONSENSUS! Th1onein Oct 2013 #93

The consensus that most supplements are worthless is based on multiple studies. HuckleB Oct 2013 #109

What are you talking about? WHERE ARE THE STUDIES TO WHICH YOU REFER? Th1onein Oct 2013 #123

You're ignoring them. HuckleB Oct 2013 #125

Now you're resorting to posting things that are simply not true. Th1onein Oct 2013 #134

You've responded to a link that contains links to several studies. HuckleB Oct 2013 #135

WHERE ARE THE STUDIES THAT YOU SAY EXIST? Th1onein Oct 2013 #139

You know where they are. HuckleB Oct 2013 #168

Blog posts do not equal scientific articles. Th1onein Oct 2013 #202

Blog posts by scientists that link to and discuss studies are quite legitimate. HuckleB Oct 2013 #205

LOL! You gotta actually read the studies, HuckleB. Th1onein Oct 2013 #212

The only thing you've ever read is a summary. HuckleB Oct 2013 #216

You mean an abstract? Because that's what they're called, you know? Th1onein Oct 2013 #251

No, you don't. HuckleB Oct 2013 #280

Dietary supplements: Scary substances manufactured under scary conditions HuckleB Oct 2013 #21

BS. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #34

You think evidence is BS. HuckleB Oct 2013 #39

Evidence in your mind only. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #41

Wow! HuckleB Oct 2013 #50

Im not pushing anything. You are. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #51

I'm sorry that you prefer fictions and misinformation. HuckleB Oct 2013 #52

Youre talking about yourself. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #54

You are the one ignoring the content of good information. HuckleB Oct 2013 #56

Good information?? darkangel218 Oct 2013 #57

The sites I used criticize big pharma as well as anything. HuckleB Oct 2013 #58

Like i said, good luck. No one is buying it. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #61

I appreciate the kicks. HuckleB Oct 2013 #65

"Please stop pushing unjustifiable nonsense. " darkangel218 Oct 2013 #103

Prove it, using the scientific consensus. HuckleB Oct 2013 #133

Lol same links darkangel218 Oct 2013 #143

He's into Big Pharma, that's for sure. Th1onein Oct 2013 #146

You are putting words in the mouths of others because you have no justification for your stance. HuckleB Oct 2013 #171

Yah no kidding. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #173

Nope. HuckleB Oct 2013 #170

He's calling everyone else deluded, but he quotes as a "consensus" ONE ARTICLE, Th1onein Oct 2013 #95

I've posted several articles that link to multiple studies. HuckleB Oct 2013 #187

BTW, Information literacy 101: darkangel218 Oct 2013 #35

You haven't spent any time at that blog. HuckleB Oct 2013 #38

HEY, HUCKLEB, WHERE'S THE PEER REVIEW? OH THAT'S RIGHT! IT'S A BLOG! Th1onein Oct 2013 #161

A blog written by a research MD. HuckleB Oct 2013 #162

THAT'S peer review? Wahahaha! Th1onein Oct 2013 #247

Someone doesn't know much about the full peer review process. HuckleB Oct 2013 #295

Try Consumer Lab for independent analyses. They seem pretty legit. Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #43

that's who i use. i wish the articles in the op named the good company. it helps. eom ellenfl Oct 2013 #46

Why? HuckleB Oct 2013 #49

i disagree. finding that both products from one manufacturer contained 100% of the dna they ellenfl Oct 2013 #76

Regulation can help solve such problems. HuckleB Oct 2013 #77

i'm absolutely in favor of regulation, but until then, i want to know what non-industry ellenfl Oct 2013 #78

It shows that we really don't need most supplements. HuckleB Oct 2013 #79

We really don't need most supplements? Scientists beg to differ: Th1onein Oct 2013 #98

In other words, you think small, individual studies change the actual consensus? HuckleB Oct 2013 #111

Did you even READ the abstracts that I posted? Of course you didn't. Th1onein Oct 2013 #119

Again, you think preliminary studies lead to a clinical determination. HuckleB Oct 2013 #126

ONE is a preliminary study. Some of the others are ACTUALLY REVIEWS! Th1onein Oct 2013 #141

Nothing there offers a justification for clinical use. HuckleB Oct 2013 #178

Do you even know the difference between a review and a study? Th1onein Oct 2013 #204

No, reviews are not settled science, FFS. HuckleB Oct 2013 #233

Yeah, actually that's one of the main places you're going to find settled science. Th1onein Oct 2013 #252

It's the truth. HuckleB Oct 2013 #281

Your cat is much more intelligent... n/t chervilant Oct 2013 #269

USP Th1onein Oct 2013 #86

Derp! HuckleB Oct 2013 #89

Talking about obsessing on someone's posts? Th1onein Oct 2013 #92

Derp! HuckleB Oct 2013 #114

Where's the context? Where's the peer review? HuckleB Oct 2013 #48

The Vitamin Myth: Why We Think We Need Supplements HuckleB Oct 2013 #59

Meanwhile, Sixty Mintues reported that the very expensive pharmaceuticals we truedelphi Oct 2013 #60

+1000 darkangel218 Oct 2013 #62

No one is justifying pharmaceutical concerns. HuckleB Oct 2013 #66

It's the pharmas that want supplement regulation, HuckleB. Surely, you are not unaware of this? Th1onein Oct 2013 #97

It's people who care about science, and people who care about consumers. HuckleB Oct 2013 #113

I am as anticorporate as they come; and I am a scientist. Th1onein Oct 2013 #118

Hogwash. HuckleB Oct 2013 #127

So someone like you, who wants Big Pharma to sell us vitamins, isn't pro corporate? Th1onein Oct 2013 #136

Big Pharma already sells vitamins. It is part of BIG SUPPLEMENT. HuckleB Oct 2013 #138

You need to stop insulting people. It doesn't help your argument. Th1onein Oct 2013 #149

You've done plenty of insulting here. HuckleB Oct 2013 #182

Let's talk about your pro-GMO history, HuckleB. Th1onein Oct 2013 #207

Let's talk about the consensus of science on GMOs. HuckleB Oct 2013 #221

I wonder why you don't want to discuss this topic? I'm pro-science, not pro-Monsanto. Th1onein Oct 2013 #254

You're not pro-science in any way, shape or form. HuckleB Oct 2013 #282

Why are the usual anti-vaccine, pro big supplements suspects so adamant? HuckleB Oct 2013 #71

You are quoting ONE ARTICLE and the evidence is "amazingly clear cut"? Th1onein Oct 2013 #90

You know nothing about the scientific method. HuckleB Oct 2013 #115

Show me the multiple studies. Prove what you are selling. Th1onein Oct 2013 #117

You posted a list of preliminary studies on single items. HuckleB Oct 2013 #129

THAT is factually incorrect. I invite everyone to click on the PubMed links I posted. Th1onein Oct 2013 #151

I do tell the truth. You do not. HuckleB Oct 2013 #180

Like I said, I invite everyone to click on the links I've provided to REAL SCIENTIFIC ARTICLES. Th1onein Oct 2013 #223

This is the usual anti-science routine, as I've already explained. HuckleB Oct 2013 #226

Sorry, but I've offered the evidence for people to actually see for themselves. As opposed Th1onein Oct 2013 #255

I have provided a far larger body of evidence. You can't handle that... HuckleB Oct 2013 #283

I'm sure there are some mfgs. who fudge the ingredients, but I can tell you napi21 Oct 2013 #101

No, you can't. HuckleB Oct 2013 #112

I would suggest you put a certain someone on Ignore, napi21. I have. Th1onein Oct 2013 #294

Woo hoo! HuckleB Oct 2013 #296

So you sell this crap, and you want us to believe you? HuckleB Oct 2013 #297

I wasn't in sales. If they had done anything unethical, I would tell everyone! napi21 Oct 2013 #300

Those manufacturers are not ethical. HuckleB Oct 2013 #303

News Keeps Getting Worse for Vitamins HuckleB Oct 2013 #116

Yeah, it'll get worse until the Big Pharmas have control, then all of a sudden vitamins are great! Th1onein Oct 2013 #121

BS. HuckleB Oct 2013 #128

Where are the studies? Where is the consensus you continually refer to? Th1onein Oct 2013 #154

I am quite right. You even know I'm right. HuckleB Oct 2013 #186

Billion-Dollar Scam In a Bottle: Why Vitamins Could Be Useless—or Even Shorten Your Lifespan HuckleB Oct 2013 #130

HuckleB calls this a "scientific consensus." It's laughable. Th1onein Oct 2013 #159

I'm sorry. You know you lost. The evidence was always there. HuckleB Oct 2013 #176

Herbal Supplement Sellers Dispense Dangerous Advice, False Claims HuckleB Oct 2013 #132

If you think you're going to pass this off as a scientific study, you're sadly mistaken. Th1onein Oct 2013 #157

So the piece doesn't discuss scientific studies? HuckleB Oct 2013 #175

Women Taking Diet Supplements Should HuckleB Oct 2013 #137

"The authors noted that their data can't distinguish whether the women they studied were taking Th1onein Oct 2013 #155

This is one piece of many. HuckleB Oct 2013 #174

HuckleB........... stewert Oct 2013 #198

Stewart... HuckleB Oct 2013 #211

NO one has attacked you personally, HuckleB. But you're not going to get away with attacking others Th1onein Oct 2013 #219

That's just pitiful. HuckleB Oct 2013 #222

I have not attacked you. And I will not attack you. It is not necessary in order for me to make my Th1onein Oct 2013 #266

You have attacked me repeatedly. HuckleB Oct 2013 #284

I am a scientist, HuckleB. You are not. Blog posts are NOT scientific articles. Th1onein Oct 2013 #203

You don't even understand the most basic beginnings of science. HuckleB Oct 2013 #215

Oh really? Where are your bonafides, HuckleB? I mean, aside from blog posts. Th1onein Oct 2013 #259

You've been pretending to be a scientist for a decade. HuckleB Oct 2013 #286

So now we know that anti-science folks will scream and yell when their pets are shown to be awful. HuckleB Oct 2013 #224

Diet Supplements or Nutritional Supplements: A Ruse by Any Other Name is Still a Ruse HuckleB Oct 2013 #235

You do realize that this is an anti-supplement site? Hardly a non-biased source. Th1onein Oct 2013 #261

It is an incredibly accurate, honest pro-science site. HuckleB Oct 2013 #287

What’s in your supplement? HuckleB Oct 2013 #239

Same anti-supplement blog. Yawn. Th1onein Oct 2013 #262

And you ignore the science by ignoring the evidence AGAIN! HuckleB Oct 2013 #285

Given the rest of the authors comments I can't support this. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #256

They want you to have to pay Big Pharma for your supplements. How about $750 a month for some Th1onein Oct 2013 #258

You arguing for less regulation for one scummy industry because another one also needs more? HuckleB Oct 2013 #273

Yes but Klee Irwin's infomercials are must-see TV Doctor_J Oct 2013 #271

+1 HuckleB Oct 2013 #272

Consumers 'Flying Blind' When Purchasing Dietary Supplements, Expert Says HuckleB Oct 2013 #288

Cleveland Clinic: Herbal Supplements:Helpful or Harmful? HuckleB Oct 2013 #289

When Supplements Become Dangerous HuckleB Oct 2013 #290

Vitamin supplements 'do us no good and may be harmful' HuckleB Oct 2013 #291

A Good Read On The Dangers Of Supplements And Supplement Shills HuckleB Oct 2013 #292

What’s really in your supplement? HuckleB Oct 2013 #293

there are laws already on the books underwhich any company claiming a product they manufacture and Bill USA Oct 2013 #319

It's toothless as all get out, and you know it. HuckleB Oct 2013 #320

Hoping if you say it enough times it will magically become true??? Bill USA Oct 2013 #323

It is true, on multiple fronts. HuckleB Oct 2013 #324

Vitamin Supplements Dangerous But Government Can’t Tell You HuckleB Oct 2013 #327

The problem with taking too many vitamins HuckleB Oct 2013 #328