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MBS

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Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:13 AM Nov 2013

Why a liberal stays in the South [View all]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/why-i-m-staying-put

Thought-provoking read.

Nonetheless, in a lot of what I hear from my fellow liberals, there's a certain degree of turning out the lights and cursing the darkness, and it's annoying. Everyone is shocked and appalled at how wingnutty the red states are, but when the liberals continually congregate for generations in a fairly small number of places that already are liberal and are, for the most part, geographically concentrated at the edges of the country, what do we expect the places they won't live in to be like?
For several years, I've been mentally short-handing this phenomenon as "gated community liberalism." It's the kind that sits in a safe, comfortable place, surrounded by allies, and snipes at those outside the gates. It's the kind that talks about how much America needs to do for "the Global South" (I agree), but has nothing but venom left for the original. The kind that stresses how important it is that, contra conservative hawks, we remain constructively engaged with countries we disagree with, like Iran (a view I share), but can only crinkle its nose at half its own country.
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But if my fellow liberals really want red America to stop being so infuriatingly red, then, sooner or later, they have to do what JR is doing: get out of blue America and invest their time and energy and money and talents and votes and lives in the rest of the country. For generations. That's what it took to build the places liberals concentrate in; it's not going to just magically happen in "flyover" country.
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I'm still living in the South, but if my child and grandchild moved out of Nay Nov 2013 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Nov 2013 #29
Bless your heart Fumesucker Nov 2013 #40
While I agree with most of this op redstatebluegirl Nov 2013 #2
I totally get the wish to vacation in a liberal area....we go straight to Nay Nov 2013 #3
My husband was offered a position there a few years ago. redstatebluegirl Nov 2013 #4
"Gated Community Liberalism" Paladin Nov 2013 #5
this Texan frog64 Nov 2013 #6
On the other hand RainDog Nov 2013 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Nov 2013 #30
I stay in the South because it's my home and I'm not damn sure not going to let someone else run Uncle Joe Nov 2013 #8
Well said. Paladin Nov 2013 #9
"awakening them little by little " MBS Nov 2013 #15
I was moved to SC when I was 9 months old SCantiGOP Nov 2013 #10
Good reads. Missn-Hitch Nov 2013 #11
I've lived in the South before, for brief periods. Brigid Nov 2013 #12
Ex-Hoosier as well. South Lite indeed. Missn-Hitch Nov 2013 #13
it's also kind of a LiberalElite Nov 2013 #14
Thanks, everyone, for these thoughtful comments. MBS Nov 2013 #16
If African-Americans had stayed in the south RainDog Nov 2013 #17
I agree! MBS Nov 2013 #18
The tea baggers don't want to compromise RainDog Nov 2013 #19
it's hard to relocate Novel style Nov 2013 #20
This was a very good piece. Behind the Aegis Nov 2013 #21
No one is blaming someone for their place of birth RainDog Nov 2013 #22
I suggest you read more posts on DU in regards to the South. Behind the Aegis Nov 2013 #23
You are saying two different things RainDog Nov 2013 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Nov 2013 #25
"What's interesting, and what gets ignored, is the reality that economic issues" Behind the Aegis Nov 2013 #28
Ah. Slavery wasn't an economic issue RainDog Nov 2013 #32
It was but ONE economic issue, not even the PRIMARY one. Behind the Aegis Nov 2013 #33
LOL. RainDog Nov 2013 #34
LOL! Speaking of childish personal attacks... Behind the Aegis Nov 2013 #35
Wow RainDog Nov 2013 #36
Wow you missed the point. Shocker! Behind the Aegis Nov 2013 #37
Articles of Secession from various states indicate CW was about slavery, hatred, human property. Hoyt Nov 2013 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author RainDog Nov 2013 #41
Life's too short. Sorry, I'm staying on the left coast. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #26
I know Texas is a mess, but it is a home I love dearly. Lobo27 Nov 2013 #27
Born in Texas, will Die Texas dem in texas Nov 2013 #31
Recommend jsr Nov 2013 #39
The problem is no gerrymandering and voter suppression alarimer Nov 2013 #42
I'm a Yankee by birth and temperament but have lived in more than a handful of states struggle4progress Nov 2013 #43
YES to that last paragraph! n/t MBS Nov 2013 #44
+1 treestar Nov 2013 #46
It is about rural vs. city treestar Nov 2013 #45
I won't feel guilty about being a Texan. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2013 #47
I would revive the local Democrats tabbycat31 Nov 2013 #48
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