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RainDog

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17. If African-Americans had stayed in the south
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 09:29 AM
Nov 2013

instead of immigrating to Chicago, New York, etc. during the 1st half of the 20th c, an entire cultural moment would not exist in our society - and that moment was the cultural emergence of African-Americans in literature and music and other arts - and the birth of 20th century American arts.

They had to leave in order to find jobs that paid enough to get out from under sharecropper peonage. Should they have stayed, as well?

Seems to me they did a good thing by leaving the south.

So, I guess I find it sort of... I dunno... straw person bashing to talk about liberal bubbles, etc. when people choose not to live among others whose values are abhorrent to them and, instead, choose to create another version of what's possible in this nation.

People move for jobs and opportunities. Many jobs and opportunities exist in cities, not in rural areas...in the south as well as anywhere else, but you really can't blame people for moving for job opportunities... unless you want to create straw people to knock down for being all uppity liberal and all.

And there's nothing "gated community liberalism" about choosing to live in places where there's more racial diversity, for instance, that is culturally enforced in a hundred different ways. When my next-door-neighbor is an African-American woman married to a white man, and my other neighbor is from Thailand, and another is a gay man living with his husband - in a not fancy middle-class community - I guess I don't get what's so "gated liberal" about that - it's the opposite, in fact.

That's living your liberal values.

People can vote with their feet, too, when they have options that create the life they want, as far as living their values are concerned.

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I'm still living in the South, but if my child and grandchild moved out of Nay Nov 2013 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Nov 2013 #29
Bless your heart Fumesucker Nov 2013 #40
While I agree with most of this op redstatebluegirl Nov 2013 #2
I totally get the wish to vacation in a liberal area....we go straight to Nay Nov 2013 #3
My husband was offered a position there a few years ago. redstatebluegirl Nov 2013 #4
"Gated Community Liberalism" Paladin Nov 2013 #5
this Texan frog64 Nov 2013 #6
On the other hand RainDog Nov 2013 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Nov 2013 #30
I stay in the South because it's my home and I'm not damn sure not going to let someone else run Uncle Joe Nov 2013 #8
Well said. Paladin Nov 2013 #9
"awakening them little by little " MBS Nov 2013 #15
I was moved to SC when I was 9 months old SCantiGOP Nov 2013 #10
Good reads. Missn-Hitch Nov 2013 #11
I've lived in the South before, for brief periods. Brigid Nov 2013 #12
Ex-Hoosier as well. South Lite indeed. Missn-Hitch Nov 2013 #13
it's also kind of a LiberalElite Nov 2013 #14
Thanks, everyone, for these thoughtful comments. MBS Nov 2013 #16
If African-Americans had stayed in the south RainDog Nov 2013 #17
I agree! MBS Nov 2013 #18
The tea baggers don't want to compromise RainDog Nov 2013 #19
it's hard to relocate Novel style Nov 2013 #20
This was a very good piece. Behind the Aegis Nov 2013 #21
No one is blaming someone for their place of birth RainDog Nov 2013 #22
I suggest you read more posts on DU in regards to the South. Behind the Aegis Nov 2013 #23
You are saying two different things RainDog Nov 2013 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Nov 2013 #25
"What's interesting, and what gets ignored, is the reality that economic issues" Behind the Aegis Nov 2013 #28
Ah. Slavery wasn't an economic issue RainDog Nov 2013 #32
It was but ONE economic issue, not even the PRIMARY one. Behind the Aegis Nov 2013 #33
LOL. RainDog Nov 2013 #34
LOL! Speaking of childish personal attacks... Behind the Aegis Nov 2013 #35
Wow RainDog Nov 2013 #36
Wow you missed the point. Shocker! Behind the Aegis Nov 2013 #37
Articles of Secession from various states indicate CW was about slavery, hatred, human property. Hoyt Nov 2013 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author RainDog Nov 2013 #41
Life's too short. Sorry, I'm staying on the left coast. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #26
I know Texas is a mess, but it is a home I love dearly. Lobo27 Nov 2013 #27
Born in Texas, will Die Texas dem in texas Nov 2013 #31
Recommend jsr Nov 2013 #39
The problem is no gerrymandering and voter suppression alarimer Nov 2013 #42
I'm a Yankee by birth and temperament but have lived in more than a handful of states struggle4progress Nov 2013 #43
YES to that last paragraph! n/t MBS Nov 2013 #44
+1 treestar Nov 2013 #46
It is about rural vs. city treestar Nov 2013 #45
I won't feel guilty about being a Texan. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2013 #47
I would revive the local Democrats tabbycat31 Nov 2013 #48
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