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In reply to the discussion: Why a liberal stays in the South [View all]RainDog
(28,784 posts)34. LOL.
Last edited Sun Nov 10, 2013, 01:31 PM - Edit history (1)
If you think I'm stating I am superior in some way - again, that's just you misunderstanding and taking offense with anyone who talks about reality.
I shouldn't even bother to respond because your attacks are childish, but this article is especially worthwhile considering your misconceptions
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/16/the_south_still_lies_about_the_civil_war/
The South still lies about the Civil War
We pause here to note that wars are complex events whose causes can never be adequately summed up in a phrase, that they can start out as one thing and evolve into another, and that what people think they are fighting for isnt always the cause history will record. Yet, as Lincoln noted in his second inaugural address, there was never any doubt that the billions of dollars in property represented by the Souths roughly four million slaves was somehow at the root of everything, and on this point scholars who dont agree about much of anything else have long found common ground. No respected historian has argued for decades that the Civil War was fought over tariffs, that abolitionists were mere hypocrites, or that only constitutional concerns drove secessionists, writes University of Virginia historian Edward Ayers. Yet theres a vast chasm between this long-established scholarly consensus and the views of millions of presumably educated Americans, who hold to a theory that relegates slavery to, at best, incidental status. How did this happen?
One reason boils down to simple conveniencefor white people, that is. In his 2002 book Race and Reunion, Yale historian David Blight describes a national fervor for reconciliation that began in the 1880s and lasted through the end of World War I, fueled in large part by the Souths desire to attract industry, Northern investors desire to make money, and the desire of white people everywhere to push the Negro question aside. In the process, the real causes of the war were swept under the rug, the better to facilitate economic partnerships and sentimental reunions of Civil War veterans.
But an equally important reason was a vigorous, sustained effort by Southerners to literally rewrite historyand among the most ardent revisionists were a group of respectable white Southern matrons known as the United Daughters of the Confederacy.
...Former New York Times correspondent John Herbers is an old man now, living in retirement in Bethesda, Maryland, with his wife, Betty. but when he was growing up in Mississippi in the 1930s and 1940s, the lost cause was one of the main themes my grandmother used to talk about: slavery was nothing to do with the Civil Warwe had a cotton economy and [the North] wanted to dominate us. It was an undisputed topic. At the time, he accepted this version, as children do; today, he is struck by the vigilance with which adults in his world implanted this story in the minds of their children. They pushed themselves to believe that, he said. If [the war] had anything to do with slavery, they had no ground to stand on.
One reason boils down to simple conveniencefor white people, that is. In his 2002 book Race and Reunion, Yale historian David Blight describes a national fervor for reconciliation that began in the 1880s and lasted through the end of World War I, fueled in large part by the Souths desire to attract industry, Northern investors desire to make money, and the desire of white people everywhere to push the Negro question aside. In the process, the real causes of the war were swept under the rug, the better to facilitate economic partnerships and sentimental reunions of Civil War veterans.
But an equally important reason was a vigorous, sustained effort by Southerners to literally rewrite historyand among the most ardent revisionists were a group of respectable white Southern matrons known as the United Daughters of the Confederacy.
...Former New York Times correspondent John Herbers is an old man now, living in retirement in Bethesda, Maryland, with his wife, Betty. but when he was growing up in Mississippi in the 1930s and 1940s, the lost cause was one of the main themes my grandmother used to talk about: slavery was nothing to do with the Civil Warwe had a cotton economy and [the North] wanted to dominate us. It was an undisputed topic. At the time, he accepted this version, as children do; today, he is struck by the vigilance with which adults in his world implanted this story in the minds of their children. They pushed themselves to believe that, he said. If [the war] had anything to do with slavery, they had no ground to stand on.
etc.
Seems that the leading historians of the civil war disagree with you, but they're just trying to act superior too, I guess... or uppity, by pretending slavery wasn't the issue whites defended and then denied the consequence of, and continue to do so to this day.
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I stay in the South because it's my home and I'm not damn sure not going to let someone else run
Uncle Joe
Nov 2013
#8
"What's interesting, and what gets ignored, is the reality that economic issues"
Behind the Aegis
Nov 2013
#28
Articles of Secession from various states indicate CW was about slavery, hatred, human property.
Hoyt
Nov 2013
#38
I'm a Yankee by birth and temperament but have lived in more than a handful of states
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#43