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In reply to the discussion: Sweden Becomes First Western Nation to Reject Low-fat Diet Dogma in Favor of LCHF [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)91. If I eat 5000 calories of low-carb food a day, I will die from being overweight.
The actual cause of death will be one of the things that happens from being massively overweight, even though I was eating a "low carb" diet.
Point being there is a calorie restriction because of the food selection for the diet. You aren't going to eat 5000 calories of vegetables a day because of the massive quantity of vegetables that requires - about 66 lbs of Romaine lettuce, for example.
It's the entirety of the diet that is important. Applying an oversimplified label to the diet undoes that.
And yes, I'm well aware that we're speaking of "diet" in the long-term context....because that's what I've been doing all this time.
And no one is suggesting that anyone eat from a box!
By oversimplifying the diet to "low-carb" you are. There's a ton of other details about the diet, but you are hyping only one part.
Marketing will follow your path. Boxes of crap will proudly display "Low Carb!" on their labels. Just like boxes of crap proudly displayed "Low Fat!" on their labels. People will only learn about the buzzword, and not follow the rest of the diet. Just like with "low fat". And in about 20 years, people will be talking about the failure of "low carb" diets, treating the buzzword as the only element of the diet. Just like you are with "low fat".
Your calling my insistence on a factual presentation evangelism is very telling.
It's evangelism because you are not willing to consider criticism of your approach. I'm saying the entirety of the diet is the important part, and you are attacking me because the entirety of the diet is the important part...but want to apply a catchy label.
but telling people that changing their way of eating can't work to improve their health because someone, somewhere will choose to eat processed food in place of real food is really clutching at straws.
Good thing I'm not doing that then.
I'm saying changing one's way of eating can greatly improve one's health. I'm also saying that declaring "low carb" the important part will fail. Because by declaring "low carb" the important part, you are oversimplifying the diet to the point of uselessness.
The important thing is to eat a moderate amount of food, mostly plants. This is the fundamentals of the "low carb" diet you are evangelizing. This is also the actual fundamentals of the "low fat" diet you are attacking. But you are attacking the buzzword instead of the details, because the buzzword is all people know.
What do you expect to happen when you plaster the "low carb" buzzword to your diet? You should expect the exact same results - people will only know the buzzword, and will not learn about the rest of the diet.
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Sweden Becomes First Western Nation to Reject Low-fat Diet Dogma in Favor of LCHF [View all]
supernova
Dec 2013
OP
I've seen some recipes that add in quinoa or cheese instead of the breadcrumbs. n/t
woodsprite
Dec 2013
#19
The fact that they don't talk about calorie restriction does not mean calorie restriction is
jeff47
Dec 2013
#80
If I eat 5000 calories of low-carb food a day, I will die from being overweight.
jeff47
Dec 2013
#91
No, I get the point. You're missing what will happen when marketing gets a hold of it.
jeff47
Dec 2013
#82
Calories is a good starting point,but you're not taking insulin and metabolic syndrome into account.
TroubleMan
Dec 2013
#70
Actually there's several manufacturers already doing that. Your fear has already been realized.
TroubleMan
Dec 2013
#89