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eridani

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63. And that is what is destroying us among voters. Thanks ever so much.

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 06:05 AM

Jan 2012

Voters mostly think that jobs are more important than the deficit, strangely enough.

Active policy wonk liberals all voted in 2010, because issue wonks always vote. If you think otherwise, you are duped and delusional. The occasional voters who showed up in 2008 did not vote, as you would bloody well know if you ever bothered to talk to any of them. It was your lousy, bloodless, I-don't-really-give-a-shit-about-peoples'-lives messaging that sank us. It obviously is not how you get elected, but empirical facts seem to be irrelevant here. Thanks ever so much for your help in putting 2012 at risk as well. /sarcasm

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Andrew Sullivan: How Obama's Long Game Will Outsmart His Critics [View all] Skinner Jan 2012 OP

Andrew Sullivan wrote this?!? Wow! peacebird Jan 2012 #1

Andy Sullivan is a strong Obama supporter. He also voted for John Kerry in 2004. Here's one Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #2

Thank yoy, I didn't know that. peacebird Jan 2012 #3

Well, actually.... NWHarkness Jan 2012 #7

Do you mind sending me a link? I'd like to read and also send to some conservative Sully fans. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #30

Sully is a con who was driven from the GOP by Bush Doctor_J Jan 2012 #14

+10 RC Jan 2012 #18

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #28

Wait a minute. Why are you attacking me? I obviously did not know Sully's views. I'm open Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #32

I didn't Plantsmantx Jan 2012 #33

No, the point for sending it to the conservative folks who like Sully is that they didn't know about Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #34

Which side would that be? Plantsmantx Jan 2012 #35

Your rude posts really irritate me and turn me off, so I'll put you on Ignore now. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #36

Well... Plantsmantx Jan 2012 #37

Recommended reading-thanks! Sullivan babylonsister Jan 2012 #4

I think this is great and not just for centrists and independents OKNancy Jan 2012 #5

I love that sentence too (nt) Tumbulu Jan 2012 #13

For that sentence alone, it is a great read. eom BlueMTexpat Jan 2012 #22

No significant scandal to his name??? The Vrude Jan 2012 #24

Those may be atrocious actions, but they're not considered "scandals" usrname Jan 2012 #26

Atrocious, not scandals? The Vrude Jan 2012 #27

The corporate media didn't define it as such, so no scandal Xtraneous Jan 2012 #42

The Washington Times DallasNE Jan 2012 #29

Oh, so because the Washington Times The Vrude Jan 2012 #31

Once Again, Off Topic DallasNE Jan 2012 #44

How the heck am I off topic? The Vrude Jan 2012 #45

Umm.....When exactly did he "Attack Libya"?? cliffordu Jan 2012 #43

You're joking right? The Vrude Jan 2012 #46

A date would be nice. cliffordu Jan 2012 #47

I take it that... The Vrude Jan 2012 #48

True dat. Why bother? cliffordu Jan 2012 #49

Did you watch or read a damn thing I linked to? The Vrude Jan 2012 #50

Thanks for posting! n/t BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #6

You sound like another blue links-using Obamabot apologist! Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #8

Alas, my links are blue just like everyone else's. Skinner Jan 2012 #10

Ironically, a blue link means the reader has never looked at it muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #12

Perfectly said. Perfect Number23 Jan 2012 #38

K & R Scurrilous Jan 2012 #9

K&R. If I could bookmark this, I would. DinahMoeHum Jan 2012 #11

Wow. bemildred Jan 2012 #15

k & r and thanks pamela Jan 2012 #16

Outstanding article by Andrew Sullivan. jaxx Jan 2012 #17

I think Andrew hits it on the money........... Historic NY Jan 2012 #19

Great find. sellitman Jan 2012 #20

"Their short-term outbursts have missed Obama�s long game...." BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2012 #21

But the President is a super progressive libereal! progressoid Jan 2012 #23

I think this states the case very well. Kablooie Jan 2012 #25

Kick Omaha Steve Jan 2012 #39

K&R...nt SidDithers Jan 2012 #40

Sorry I can't help you Skinner. I don't have any centrist friends. Better Believe It Jan 2012 #41

Health care reform helped to cost us the 2010 election eridani Jan 2012 #54

The notion of some longterm economic game is just utter tripe eridani Jan 2012 #51

Well, I'm a DUer and a liberal lillypaddle Jan 2012 #52

Does anyone else want to puke until you can't puke anymore about this defense of-- eridani Jan 2012 #53

Magnificent series of posts, eridani. Kaleko Jan 2012 #55

Thanks, but as far as refutation so far-- eridani Jan 2012 #57

Of course. Kaleko Jan 2012 #59

So, MSM propaganda, Koch bros spending *$30 million*, and it's Obama/Democrats... joshcryer Jan 2012 #60

The delusion was successful because Democrats refused to use countermessaging eridani Jan 2012 #61

Obama *campaigned on the deficit.* joshcryer Jan 2012 #62

And that is what is destroying us among voters. Thanks ever so much. eridani Jan 2012 #63

They might have "voted" but they didn't GOTV, which is far more important. joshcryer Jan 2012 #64

They got out more votes because they successfully faked being defenders of Medicare eridani Jan 2012 #65

And how did they "successfully fake being defenders of Medicare"? joshcryer Jan 2012 #66

The Commission's point was to put attacking Social Security and Medicare on the table eridani Jan 2012 #67

It was never "on the table." It was never put up to a vote. It never got out of committee. joshcryer Jan 2012 #68

Focusing on his dumbest critics zipplewrath Jan 2012 #56

Except that the left critiques happen to be persuasive eridani Jan 2012 #58