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kristopher

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13. "Utility in a Box" or "The Economics of Grid Defection"
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 03:27 PM
Feb 2014
The Economics of Grid Defection

Distributed electricity generation, especially solar PV, is rapidly spreading and getting much cheaper. Distributed electricity storage is doing the same, thanks largely to mass production of batteries for electric vehicles. Solar power is already starting to erode some utilities’ sales and revenues.

But what happens when solar and batteries join forces? Together they can make the electric grid optional for many customers—without compromising reliability and increasingly at prices cheaper than utility retail electricity. Equipped with a solar-plus-battery system, customers can take or leave traditional utility service with what amounts to a “utility in a box.”

This “utility in a box” represents a fundamentally different challenge for utilities. Whereas other technologies, including solar PV and other distributed resources without storage, net metering, and energy efficiency still require some degree of grid dependence, solar-plus-batteries enable customers to cut the cord to their utility entirely.



This first installment of two reports outlines the possible scenarios in five different U.S. regions—Hawaii, California, Kentucky, Texas and New York—and identifies when solar PV and storage combinations could disrupt existing utility business models. The continuing decline of solar PV and battery storage costs, coupled with increasing retail electricity prices, has resulted in grid parity today for commercial customers in Hawaii. The most optimistic projections, based on certain solar and efficiency targets being met, depict grid parity for millions of residential and commercial customers in New York and California within this decade....


You can download the full report or a summary at http://www.rmi.org/electricity_grid_defection

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That's how Musk always operates BlueStreak Feb 2014 #1
I don't know enough to bet for him or against him BBR Esq Feb 2014 #3
Why does that worry you? Scuba Feb 2014 #2
It doesn't worry me, BBR Esq Feb 2014 #4
I guess I can't tell what part of the OP is cut/paste and what is yours. Scuba Feb 2014 #5
The OP is all cut and paste. BBR Esq Feb 2014 #6
I think the issue is that Musk will use other people's money and LOADS of public handouts BlueStreak Feb 2014 #7
The storage market for EVs, solar panels, and the grid is ready to explode kristopher Feb 2014 #8
This technology will never be on the grid BlueStreak Feb 2014 #9
Not true at all, my friend. kristopher Feb 2014 #10
V2G is a preposterous idea. It is wrong in every way possible BlueStreak Feb 2014 #11
No, your rejection of the body of work that supports it is "preposterous" kristopher Feb 2014 #12
If only I'd known you were shorting Tesla when we had this exchange... kristopher Mar 2014 #21
It has gone down almost $20/share since I bought my puts. BlueStreak Mar 2014 #22
"Utility in a Box" or "The Economics of Grid Defection" kristopher Feb 2014 #13
Considering how much money Musk has... MicaelS Feb 2014 #14
The 500,000 production figure is deceptive Mother Muckraker Feb 2014 #15
Did he say they would al be Teslas? BlueStreak Feb 2014 #16
Who cares how "he" does? Mother Muckraker Feb 2014 #17
That's food for thought. BBR Esq Feb 2014 #18
Just for the record, I am not sucked in by his lies BlueStreak Feb 2014 #19
As if on cue, TSLA stock drops over $8 today BlueStreak Feb 2014 #20
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