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bemildred

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45. He has to show good faith, just like we do, and Yats does, and the EU.

Sat Apr 19, 2014, 12:50 PM

Apr 2014

But nobody wants to look "weak" see, so the posturing continues.

But here:

All Ukranian naval ships leave Crimea http://www.agi.it/english-version/world/elenco-notizie/201404191437-pol-ren1018-all_ukranian_naval_ships_leave_crimea

Does this sound like you are getting ready for war?

Nothing should impede normalisation of Russia-West relations: Putin

http://digitaljournal.com/news/world/nothing-should-impede-normalisation-of-russia-west-relations-putin/article/381542

Does this sound like a guy trying to gin up some war fever?

And on the other hand we have:

Ukraine Calls An Easter Truce In Clash With Militants

So you have both sides trying to make nice, while all and sundry are stil talking tough.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/04/19/304905585/ukraine-calls-an-easter-truce-in-clash-with-militants

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John Pilger: Nato's action plan in Ukraine is right out of Dr Strangelove (Russia & China) [View all] Catherina Apr 2014 OP

And then this summer - dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #1

I rather think the trap is being set for Obama--and by himself and his advisors Demeter Apr 2014 #2

Agreed. I think they sprung a trap but are just tripping/trapping themselves up in it Catherina Apr 2014 #15

The long reach of Putinismo bemildred Apr 2014 #3

So why is the US administraion so misinformed of history, culture and nuance etc...they seem Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #4

Mr. Cohen is wrong. bemildred Apr 2014 #5

He may very well be. There is of no comfort either way, Obama is responsible for the language he Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #6

Well, let's put it this way, I was not surprised by the agreement. bemildred Apr 2014 #7

Uncertain but workable. I have said before the situation escalated, I find it hard to believe Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #9

It depends on the will of the parties involved. bemildred Apr 2014 #10

Dick waving may be useful against some nations, but careless with Putin. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #12

He is dick-waving too, he's just much better placed to do it. nt bemildred Apr 2014 #13

Which I would expect a smart goverment to recognize and let it go. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #14

Yes, I blame the Neocons, as I said, for giving him the opportunity. bemildred Apr 2014 #16

Agreed, too many neocons and nothing but trouble erupts from them. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #17

Talking about Neocons. Nuland seems to be a household name in Ukraine now Catherina Apr 2014 #24

She has made a name for herself. nt bemildred Apr 2014 #27

I'll bet a lot of them have read the PNAC manifesto by now. n/t cprise Apr 2014 #29

They talk a lot about the Brzezinski doctrine (foundation of PNAC) Catherina Apr 2014 #32

Oh geeze, can she leave a lasting impression, or what? Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #30

I'm really enjoying this internet age and how quickly news gets around Catherina Apr 2014 #33

I question anyone's intelligence who cannot recognize cprise Apr 2014 #28

Yeah, but I don't think it matters. bemildred Apr 2014 #31

The petulant tone I spoke of: bemildred Apr 2014 #8

Thanks! The title alone is worth the price of admission. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #11

David Rothkopf, author of that article, has interesting background. KoKo Apr 2014 #36

You just have to read what he wrote. bemildred Apr 2014 #38

i did read it from your link...and KoKo Apr 2014 #39

He is not a dispassionate observer, he has a dog in this race. bemildred Apr 2014 #40

Indeed and agree with your view... KoKo Apr 2014 #42

+1000 Both of them figureheads of capital right now Catherina Apr 2014 #44

Thanks for this great link. Bookmarked for my bus ride n/t Catherina Apr 2014 #23

Very thoughtful article. Thanks Catherina Apr 2014 #18

I think all that depends on the outcome in Ukraine. bemildred Apr 2014 #19

I expect one too and agree with your analysis Catherina Apr 2014 #21

There was some fairly emphatic language in that statement. bemildred Apr 2014 #25

The chances of Russia invading, imo, are nil to none Catherina Apr 2014 #35

Yes, but you always have to allow for craziness and provocations. bemildred Apr 2014 #37

Nice post but I'm not sure what you men by Putin has to stand down now Catherina Apr 2014 #43

He has to show good faith, just like we do, and Yats does, and the EU. bemildred Apr 2014 #45

I'm afraid that the posturing will continue because not a single move was made Catherina Apr 2014 #46

Neither side can encourage or use violence. bemildred Apr 2014 #47

Then none of this will go anywhere. Yats is as obligated as the people in the East Catherina Apr 2014 #48

Yeah, I think we are done now. bemildred Apr 2014 #49

See, this is the problem: bemildred Apr 2014 #20

Thinking alike, just posted this 10 minutes ago in LBN: "You Disarm First" Catherina Apr 2014 #22

Please see 2nd paragraph in post #25. nt bemildred Apr 2014 #26

Precisely Catherina Apr 2014 #34

Excellent read...Recommend.. KoKo Apr 2014 #41