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MADem

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21. He's his prostitute, at a minimum. So's Larry King and anyone who takes money from the
Sat May 3, 2014, 01:47 PM
May 2014

propaganda arm of the Russian state.

Those who carry Putin's water need to accept the the loss to their reputation for so doing. Actions do have consequences. Associations can and do damage a reputation.

It's not about me, so just cut that crap right now. Why is it that the standard form of deflection here at DU is to ignore the main argument (RT is a Russian, state controlled media outlet, and anything Putin doesn't like will NOT be broadcast on it, further, it is used to advance Putin's views to the exclusion of others) and instead, the "So YEW don't like....so YEW don't want" bullshit comes out.

If Putin didn't like one or more of those third party candidates you are whinging about, you wouldn't see them. It's not about YOU (never mind me), it's about PUTIN.

And if you want to see third party debates, get off your behind and turn the channel to CSPAN. They carry them. They have for decades now, since shortly after Putin abandoned his illegitimate child in East Germany, and long before your adored "RT" was a gleam in Daddy Putin-Propaganda's bloodshot eye.

Where do you think Putin gets the television feed for these debates? Do you think he actually sends a camera crew to these venues? Do you think he funds them? Good grief.

How amusing--no, telling-- that you "praise" Putin for something that is broadcast thanks to a public broadcasting service funded by American cable companies. All he's doing is kiting off of CSPAN's draft. If RT was the ONLY outlet you found covering the debates, you clearly didn't even bother to look.

Finally--and this is something you need to take aboard--it is not the job of the DEMOCRATIC Party to carry the water of the Greens, the Independents, the Socialists, etc. They need to get off their own asses and sink or swim. This isn't Socialist Underground, BTW....it is DEMOCRATIC (as in the PARTY) Underground. The goal here is to elect more DEMOCRATS and fewer Republicans to public office. It's in the TOS. Nothing wrong with touting "progressive" principles, but there's no damn way the Democrats should feel like they have an obligation to anyone who isn't in the party. Don't like it? Too bad.


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Answer: RT....and "Consortium News." nt MADem May 2014 #1
You nailed it. nt EmilyAnne May 2014 #2
Did s/he? Hissyspit May 2014 #3
He nailed the fact that RT and Consortium are propagandist. EmilyAnne May 2014 #13
So is the U.S. government. Hissyspit May 2014 #30
Why attack the author, Robert Parry? Judi Lynn May 2014 #4
Truth hurts, I guess ...... polly7 May 2014 #6
+1 newfie11 May 2014 #9
Not to miss Parry links. He has earned my respect. Thank you, Polly. n/t Judi Lynn May 2014 #34
He's promoting a wildly anti gay propaganda machine for his own profit and self promotion Bluenorthwest May 2014 #12
In which case you will then admit the Stances of the current Leaders of Ukraine? newthinking May 2014 #24
Where did I "attack the author" or even mention his name? Don't do that. I will point it out. MADem May 2014 #17
I'll for one go on record in saying Parry has mortgaged away whatever credibility he had left. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #46
+1000 NT Adrahil May 2014 #35
oops, replied to wrong post ... nt. polly7 May 2014 #5
RT lies about the anti gay laws, about gay people. Bluenorthwest May 2014 #7
After being lied into a war in Iraq I don't take anything coming from our MSM as truth. newfie11 May 2014 #8
at least the MSM Duckhunter935 May 2014 #16
It doesn't have to be one or the other. JoeyT May 2014 #10
RT Duckhunter935 May 2014 #11
How do you know they are lying - TBF May 2014 #14
This kind of reminds me of creationist arguments. Adrahil May 2014 #36
And your comment sort of reminds me of the book 1984 - TBF May 2014 #41
LOL.... Suuuurrrreeee... Adrahil May 2014 #42
Who do you think owns the media here - TBF May 2014 #43
Sure buddy... keep watching RT. I'll keep laughing. NT. Adrahil May 2014 #44
Why do we have to choose one? bvar22 May 2014 #15
No it isn't. RT is the personal propaganda arm of Vladimir Putin. MADem May 2014 #19
...and you believe that Thom Hartmann is Putin's Puppet? bvar22 May 2014 #20
He's his prostitute, at a minimum. So's Larry King and anyone who takes money from the MADem May 2014 #21
Nobody "Praised Putin". bvar22 May 2014 #25
You're wasting your time. Oakenshield May 2014 #27
My posts aren't for the handful of blind Party hacks. bvar22 May 2014 #29
You are not alone. There are others here who also hope to reach progressives, not interlopers. Judi Lynn May 2014 #47
RT is not a trusted source nor are many US sources. It is not wise to try and frame the Jefferson23 May 2014 #18
Good points, but some would say it is most prudent to affect change from within the system. Ash_F May 2014 #22
Thanks. I understand that RT affords an avenue to Thom and others, but it does Jefferson23 May 2014 #26
RT employs people like Hartmann for one reason only.... Adrahil May 2014 #37
Thom and people like him are between a rock and a hard place b/c they do Jefferson23 May 2014 #38
I appreciate his position.... Adrahil May 2014 #39
Yes, I think so too. The Russians dissenters, who we ultimately stand behind, Jefferson23 May 2014 #40
RT Igel May 2014 #23
long read Duckhunter935 May 2014 #28
The events leading up to the arson are still coming to light newthinking May 2014 #31
Excellent, excellent deconstruction analysis. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #48
Both. OnyxCollie May 2014 #32
Rt.com is the clear answer for anyone who fails to belong geek tragedy May 2014 #33
Easy. RT FBaggins May 2014 #45
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