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AnotherMcIntosh

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6. Getting someone like the opponent to Goldwater would be a good thing?
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 12:19 PM
Jan 2012

True, LBJ did some good things with respect to civil rights. But let's give JFK credit for his civil rights policies which ultimately were adopted by LBJ et al.

The problem with the Goldwater-LBJ comparison is that Goldwater was the real war candidate while LBJ, who was already engaging in military build up for the upcoming and planned Viet Nam war, expressly ran on a platform that he would not send American troops to fight on Asian soil.

We know how that turned out.

The problem with Gingrich running is that, even when he loses, it frees up Obama to any of the nutty things that Gingrich and the other Republicans want to the detriment of the country as a whole.

Please, name a policy that Obama adopted to the benefit of the country as a whole that the 1% did not want.

He signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act? That was originated in Congress by someone other than himself. His omission to oppose it did not mean that he was a moving force behind it.

Mandatory purchase of health insurance? That idea originated with Sen. Grassley, a REPUBLICAN Senator from Iowa.

He withdrew all troops from Iraq? All? Or all the uniformed troops?

What about recent activities, such as the approval (even if claimed to be reluctant approval) of Presidentally-approved assignations of Americans, indefinite detention with no recourse, silence in the face of the police brutalization of peaceful protestors exercising their First Amendment rights, etc. (Is it time for someone to pull out the list again?)

So he's not Gingrich? Please consider the lesson learned from the election of LBJ.

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Articles like this are just poking them with a stick jberryhill Jan 2012 #1
I'm really enjoying George Will being upset about this ... after all, he helped cause it. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #2
Yup. City Lights Jan 2012 #3
I don't eat popcorn but Responder3 Jan 2012 #43
Well said, JoePhilly. russspeakeasy Jan 2012 #4
exactly riverwalker Jan 2012 #5
Brilliant analysis of the Newt's appeal... Surya Gayatri Jan 2012 #13
They created a monster, and it's fun to watch. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #42
Getting someone like the opponent to Goldwater would be a good thing? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #6
Obama *is* the Democratic candidate, regardless of whom the Republicans nominate. tblue37 Jan 2012 #9
If you want a liberal candidate, you do not keep the candidate from knowing such views. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #10
If you want to attack LBJ on Vietnam, get your facts straight. happyslug Jan 2012 #23
If LBJ would have stuck with Civil Rights and not reversed NSAM 263 w NSAM 273, no lengthy defense AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #24
No way he would have forced Congress to pass the Civil Rights Acts of 1964 or the voting act of 1965 happyslug Jan 2012 #33
Believe what you want. It's not convincing. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #37
the SCOTUS argument is specious Doctor_J Jan 2012 #18
You're right, the SCOTUS argument is specious. But if history is a guide, Reid will simply say that AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #27
Obama got Sotomayor and Kagan confirmed. nt tblue37 Jan 2012 #39
You are pulling the string too hard. The comparison is as follows: Goldwater=Batshit Crazy. MADem Jan 2012 #11
No. Obama WILL BE chosen. Obama WILL WIN the general election. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #12
Six of one, half dozen of the other. He's the guy. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deep in fantasy MADem Jan 2012 #14
The "mushy middle" is a term of disparagement and contempt, not endearment or respect. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #17
The "mushy middle" wants Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and probably single payer health care Doctor_J Jan 2012 #19
We can agree without thinking of the middle as the "mushy middle." AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #22
No it isn't. It's reality. There is a big mushy mess of people in the middle. They are not like MADem Jan 2012 #26
There's a good reason why you never suggested that Obama used the term "mushy middle." AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #28
Excuse me but YOU were the one who said that he never used the term "in public." MADem Jan 2012 #34
Nonsense. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #38
He had a Dem congress his first two years Doctor_J Jan 2012 #21
People like you will make SURE he doesn't have a greater majority. MADem Jan 2012 #25
ah, yes, the familiar lament from the right - "Don't tell me the truth - it's too depressing" Doctor_J Jan 2012 #29
You are entitled to your flawed opinion. Repeating it doesn't make it any more true than it was MADem Jan 2012 #30
So you are admitting that he won't have bigger majorities than he did the first time Doctor_J Jan 2012 #31
I am not "admitting" anything. And you have a bad tendency to go on with the MADem Jan 2012 #32
Absolutely right. Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #36
I don't remember a Kornacki landslide back then. Kablooie Jan 2012 #7
K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2012 #8
Gingrich, the perfect first abuser of Evidence-Free Indefinite Detention of US Citizens. blkmusclmachine Jan 2012 #15
One thing to never forget DonCoquixote Jan 2012 #16
We've been reading about the Repuke suicide for at least 15 years Doctor_J Jan 2012 #20
You have to wonder what moderate Republicans are going to do if the right wing continues neverforget Jan 2012 #35
Join them on the fringe - Exhibit A Doctor_J Jan 2012 #40
This batch of crazies would call Goldwater an evil socialist, today. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #41
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