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RiverNoord

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46. I believe that the use of remotely controlled drones to kill..

Sat Jun 21, 2014, 09:30 AM

Jun 2014

American citizens not actively engaged in direct hostilities with American forces should be a very clear example of a 'High Crime and Misdemeanor.' It's just plain murder. But, in the absence of prosecution of Bush administration officials for war crimes, it looks like the bar has been raised way too high for 'national security ' crimes.

If the House of Representatives actually impeached the President, it might just be the permanent end of the Republican Party, so I'm all for it. There's absolutely no way, as in the Clinton case, that the Senate would confirm, and the whole thing would stink to high heaven to the American people. Except the 'Tea Party,' which is a fringe fad that'll fade quickly enough when there is no longer an African American man in the White house. So - I don't see a downside.

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Jonathan Capehart:"How President Obama will be impeached" [View all] MBS Jun 2014 OP

I'm very critical of Obama's policies ... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2014 #1

I guess they're still pissy about Nixon getting caught... Volaris Jun 2014 #24

I agree NoKoolAideForMeThx Jun 2014 #50

There are ANY sane Republicans left? IrishAyes Jun 2014 #64

Doesn't seem like it. deurbano Jun 2014 #67

There are those who would argue that President Obama might actually IrishAyes Jun 2014 #63

Then they will declare themselves a republicaqn oligarchy bjobotts Jun 2014 #85

The goal isn't to destroy THE Government, just OBAMA'S government. Volaris Jun 2014 #86

They Gotta Be Kidding billhicks76 Jun 2014 #43

We're Americans, not the French. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2014 #45

Ditto regarding Hilary Clinton RiverNoord Jun 2014 #47

Clinton = Bush billhicks76 Jun 2014 #54

So in the general election, you wouldn't vote for the Democratic candidate? drm604 Jun 2014 #61

If the candidate is Hillary Clinton, I'm afraid I will not. RiverNoord Jun 2014 #73

"lesser of the two evils". Go join Ralph Nader instead of trying to justify that there is no lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #74

I agree that there are considerable differences between the parties. RiverNoord Jun 2014 #77

Which ever "third party candidate". I am criticizing you, "not condemning you", for not voting for lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #79

I believe that the use of remotely controlled drones to kill.. RiverNoord Jun 2014 #46

They won't take the Senate, and even if there is no way they could get two thirds. Worst possible lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #75

I have no doubt they will try with a GOP senate gwheezie Jun 2014 #2

will depend rtracey Jun 2014 #3

i expect they would as they are happy to create a pseudo event - so they & FOX will have something Bill USA Jun 2014 #27

He surely knows there will not be 67 votes to convict if an impeachment trial occurs LonePirate Jun 2014 #4

but why is he fear-mongering? eom ellenfl Jun 2014 #5

You don't think there are 16 Democratic cowards in the Senate? Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #17

Plenty Of Cowards But billhicks76 Jun 2014 #44

Oh, there's always one... RiverNoord Jun 2014 #48

How In Gods Name billhicks76 Jun 2014 #55

Lieberman Pantagruelsmember Jun 2014 #56

DINOs billhicks76 Jun 2014 #58

I don't think so leftynyc Jun 2014 #83

Impeachment would further paralyze the government, though NewJeffCT Jun 2014 #33

There is no further back on the backburner. sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #65

Jonathan needs to read the Constitution. jeff47 Jun 2014 #6

Exactly, and they impeach at their own peril frazzled Jun 2014 #8

PLUS, they get Biden as acting president... CTyankee Jun 2014 #23

Don't they need specific charges of illegality as well as the votes? Dragonfli Jun 2014 #7

Technically, there really isn't any requirement to be truthful. jeff47 Jun 2014 #9

OK. I was under the false impression it had to follow the rules of a real trial Dragonfli Jun 2014 #10

It's mathematically impossible for them to get a 67 seat majority in 2014. jeff47 Jun 2014 #12

This is a very gray area, probably intentional on the part of the Founding Fathers... Swede Atlanta Jun 2014 #32

Thank you for the response /nt Dragonfli Jun 2014 #37

For better or worse, the Constitution sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #66

The GOP has declared war on the Democratic Party and has been waging it for 3 decades now... toddwv Jun 2014 #11

and this article is a call to arms. MBS Jun 2014 #13

Best advice! freshwest Jun 2014 #19

The GOP will never get 67 guilty votes in Senate... HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #14

AGREED! Too much polarization here and the mentality is getting scary to me... Moostache Jun 2014 #21

You win the thread! freshwest Jun 2014 #71

So, if the impeachment process starts in the House NewJeffCT Jun 2014 #34

And the republicans paid dearly. HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #35

Umm ... how were they 'tossed out next election', exactly? brett_jv Jun 2014 #39

Republicans lost 5 House seats... HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #42

Plus the fact that the Clinton impeachment was at its core all about sex Rozlee Jun 2014 #60

Agreed. An October surprise this year to bring both POTUS and government down so they can rewrite freshwest Jun 2014 #15

The LAST thing the Republicans will do is to shut down the government this year jmowreader Jun 2014 #16

I don't know ONE single Teabagger who did not blame Obama and the Democrats for it. freshwest Jun 2014 #18

Teabaggers blame Obama for everything anyway jmowreader Jun 2014 #26

It would be the ultimate political idiocy to impeach President Obama Lefty Thinker Jun 2014 #20

Amazing... Phlem Jun 2014 #22

Thank you MBS for the closing "Moral". As for Republican dreams of saidsimplesimon Jun 2014 #25

I'll be walking precincts to GOTV this fall as long as I've got legs! LongTomH Jun 2014 #28

+ 1000! n/t MBS Jun 2014 #51

Are they just going to impeach every Democratic president now? mwb970 Jun 2014 #29

If the House Republicans make a move to do this - MARCH ON WASHINGTON RainDog Jun 2014 #30

Correct, a pattern for any President who does represent the ideology of the GOP party Iliyah Jun 2014 #31

I'm expecting any time now for Republicans to officially RUN on Impeachment.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #36

This is a waste of DU bandwidth. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #38

so that you will be moved to encourage MBS Jun 2014 #52

Thanks for posting but I can do both wyldwolf Jun 2014 #40

K & R for the "moral" n/t jaysunb Jun 2014 #41

This doesn't seem to me a productive approach. struggle4progress Jun 2014 #49

�@CapehartJ: RT @TPM: South Dakota Republican party calls for Obama's impeachment...<� ahem�.� Pirate Smile Jun 2014 #53

They're just throwing red meat to their ignorant base. HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #80

Obama's amazing record Pantagruelsmember Jun 2014 #57

I completely agree with this article. mountain grammy Jun 2014 #59

Thanks for the wake-up OP. I hope the people who need to see it take heed. IrishAyes Jun 2014 #62

I don't see how there would possibly be a two thirds vote to remove him in the Senate muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #68

Thanks for the OP red dog 1 Jun 2014 #69

GOP Lou Barletta claims enough votes in House now for impeachment Occulib Jun 2014 #70

Agreed, plus they won't have 2/3 in the Senate to convict, so it will mean nothing, just like the lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #78

elected Dems still have time to make their case more effectively AND start serving the 99% yurbud Jun 2014 #72

It is nonsense. Even if the Democrats lost the Senate, which they won't, they will NOT have 2/3 to lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #76

I have no doubt that the house will vote to impeach. Ducksworthy Jun 2014 #81

2000 evidently taught some of us nothing. riqster Jun 2014 #82

Don't worry about the hard left. The hard left gets it. Ash_F Jun 2014 #84