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AnotherMcIntosh

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17. The "mushy middle" is a term of disparagement and contempt, not endearment or respect.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:33 AM
Jan 2012

Obama has not used that term in public. Even Rahm Emanuel, who unhesitatingly showed his contempt for liberals, is not known for doing so. They are both smarter than that.

Is that your position that there is a "mushy middle"? Didn't you get the talking points? If you are a true believer and have been following Obama for some time, then you know that you are supposed to say that Obama is a Centrist. Instead of saying that he is appealing to the "mushy middle" when he takes action while rejecting the rule of law and the legitimate desires of the great majority that elected him, you are supposed to say that he is appealing to those in the center. And, when it is anticipated that the claim is obviously not persuasive enough to thinking people, you are supposed to also say something along the lines that "He didn't have enough votes from Republicans to do what he really wanted to do."

"Mushy middle"? There's no such thing. Although there are authoritarian fanatics on the right and authoritarian fanatics who claim to represent the left.

If you use the term "mushy middle" to refer to the great majority of Americans who are not authoritarian fanatics, you should know that the great majority favor the rule of law. And they favor doing what is right for America as a whole. They do not favor letting war criminals go free. They don't favor shifting public assets and the assets of themselves and future generations to the super rich. They don't favor appointing Republican hold-overs from Goldman Sachs or other Goldman Sachs personnel to high level positions so that the continued draining of wealth in favor of the super-rich can continue under another Administration.

You say, "Give him a Democratic Congress and who knows what he can get done?" We did give him a Democratic Congress. And, unless we are stupid, we know what he is going to get done. He's going to engage in further equity stripping to favor the super-rich at the expense of ourselves, our children, our grandchildren, our great-grandchildren, ...

You want him to act like a Kennedy and, at this point, adopt a philosophy that "to whom much is given much is also expected"? If he would have done that earlier, he would now have a legacy as a foundation for his re-election. Now, many people supporting his re-election are reduced to arguing "He's not Gingrich" or "He's not Rmoney" etc. Some even suggest that those who want the rule of law followed are from the "far left" and, without thinking, want Gengrich or Rmoney to be elected. Good luck to you.

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Articles like this are just poking them with a stick jberryhill Jan 2012 #1
I'm really enjoying George Will being upset about this ... after all, he helped cause it. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #2
Yup. City Lights Jan 2012 #3
I don't eat popcorn but Responder3 Jan 2012 #43
Well said, JoePhilly. russspeakeasy Jan 2012 #4
exactly riverwalker Jan 2012 #5
Brilliant analysis of the Newt's appeal... Surya Gayatri Jan 2012 #13
They created a monster, and it's fun to watch. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #42
Getting someone like the opponent to Goldwater would be a good thing? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #6
Obama *is* the Democratic candidate, regardless of whom the Republicans nominate. tblue37 Jan 2012 #9
If you want a liberal candidate, you do not keep the candidate from knowing such views. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #10
If you want to attack LBJ on Vietnam, get your facts straight. happyslug Jan 2012 #23
If LBJ would have stuck with Civil Rights and not reversed NSAM 263 w NSAM 273, no lengthy defense AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #24
No way he would have forced Congress to pass the Civil Rights Acts of 1964 or the voting act of 1965 happyslug Jan 2012 #33
Believe what you want. It's not convincing. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #37
the SCOTUS argument is specious Doctor_J Jan 2012 #18
You're right, the SCOTUS argument is specious. But if history is a guide, Reid will simply say that AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #27
Obama got Sotomayor and Kagan confirmed. nt tblue37 Jan 2012 #39
You are pulling the string too hard. The comparison is as follows: Goldwater=Batshit Crazy. MADem Jan 2012 #11
No. Obama WILL BE chosen. Obama WILL WIN the general election. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #12
Six of one, half dozen of the other. He's the guy. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deep in fantasy MADem Jan 2012 #14
The "mushy middle" is a term of disparagement and contempt, not endearment or respect. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #17
The "mushy middle" wants Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and probably single payer health care Doctor_J Jan 2012 #19
We can agree without thinking of the middle as the "mushy middle." AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #22
No it isn't. It's reality. There is a big mushy mess of people in the middle. They are not like MADem Jan 2012 #26
There's a good reason why you never suggested that Obama used the term "mushy middle." AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #28
Excuse me but YOU were the one who said that he never used the term "in public." MADem Jan 2012 #34
Nonsense. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #38
He had a Dem congress his first two years Doctor_J Jan 2012 #21
People like you will make SURE he doesn't have a greater majority. MADem Jan 2012 #25
ah, yes, the familiar lament from the right - "Don't tell me the truth - it's too depressing" Doctor_J Jan 2012 #29
You are entitled to your flawed opinion. Repeating it doesn't make it any more true than it was MADem Jan 2012 #30
So you are admitting that he won't have bigger majorities than he did the first time Doctor_J Jan 2012 #31
I am not "admitting" anything. And you have a bad tendency to go on with the MADem Jan 2012 #32
Absolutely right. Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #36
I don't remember a Kornacki landslide back then. Kablooie Jan 2012 #7
K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2012 #8
Gingrich, the perfect first abuser of Evidence-Free Indefinite Detention of US Citizens. blkmusclmachine Jan 2012 #15
One thing to never forget DonCoquixote Jan 2012 #16
We've been reading about the Repuke suicide for at least 15 years Doctor_J Jan 2012 #20
You have to wonder what moderate Republicans are going to do if the right wing continues neverforget Jan 2012 #35
Join them on the fringe - Exhibit A Doctor_J Jan 2012 #40
This batch of crazies would call Goldwater an evil socialist, today. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #41
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