The NSA Said Edward Snowden Had No Access to Surveillance Intercepts. They Lied.

[NanceGreggs]

25. Hmmm ...

"Most people weren't questioning a damned thing. Instead they were arriving in droves to yell about boxes in garages and abandoned stripper girlfriends."

Let's start there. Can you point to anyone here who "arrived to yell about boxes in garages and abandoned stripper girlfriends"?

I believe someone recently posted an OP asking for examples of this being done - and the only examples of same were quotes from an article reciting comments made by Snowden's neighbours, not citing quotes from DU posters.

If you can come up with posts from DUers who offered "boxes in the garage and stripper girlfriends" as an argument against Snowden's credibility, I would be most curious to read them. Oh, and I do mean the "skeptical of Snowden" crowd - not the Snowden supporters who kept regurgitating those quotes and insisting that the skeptics were the ones promoting that meme.

"The people I'd call security state fanatics would be a small number of the people that make arguments in defense of the NSA. They'd be the people that insist spook agencies should never be questioned because they keep us safe."

Again, this black-and-white thinking is all pervasive. If one thinks Snowden is lying because he has not produced any facts to support his assertions, that is NOT defending the NSA - or anything else. It is simply pointing out the fact that Snowden has made allegations he has yet to prove.

If someone asserted that Sarah Palin is the daughter of a black sharecropper and an exotic dancer from Timbuktu, and someone questioned the veracity of that statement in the face of a total lack of evidence thereof, that does not make the questioner a Sarah Palin defender. It simply makes the interlocutor a defender of the truth, as opposed to a defender of the person being lied about.

Snowden has made accusations that the NSA has engaged in illegal activity. When asked to cite those instances of illegal activity, Snowden couldn't come up with a single example.

That being said, I will await your links to those who "arrived in droves to yell about boxes in garages and abandoned stripper girlfriends." Being as they "arrived in droves", it shouldn't be too difficult to come up with links to at least a few.