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grasswire

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39. Yet again...

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 11:02 PM

Jul 2014

....your criticisms of Snowden are focused on what you claim he said he did/could do., with no analysis of the documents he has revealed.

Snowden claimed that he could access anyone's email, even the President's. That has never been proven.

Snowden claimed that the NSA could "read people's thoughts as they typed them". Again, never proven, not even remotely.

Snowden claimed that he could see anyone's on-line activities, such as purchasing products via the internet. Yet again, never been proven.

Snowden at first claimed that he hadn't gone through 'normal channels' to alert his superiors to what he perceived to be wrongdoing on the part of the NSA. And then a few months ago, he claimed that he HAD made his concerns known to his superiors via emails.

Do you have any criticisms of the surveillance state?

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The NSA Said Edward Snowden Had No Access to Surveillance Intercepts. They Lied. [View all] Purveyor Jul 2014 OP

But everyone knows Snowden is a liar... BillZBubb Jul 2014 #1

I think he's been doing it on purpose. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #4

I think it's the news agencies that are dribbling it out. cui bono Jul 2014 #6

No, he keeps dribbling things out so that he can stay in the limelight and headlines George II Jul 2014 #9

yuh-huh. sure he is.. frylock Jul 2014 #11

NSA groupies? NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #10

The Groupie speaks! BillZBubb Jul 2014 #14

I have rarely posted here ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #22

Yet again... grasswire Jul 2014 #39

Do I think US citizens are living in a "surveillance state"? NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #45

A few are NSA groupies. JoeyT Jul 2014 #16

Hmmm ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #25

Okie doke. JoeyT Jul 2014 #27

The first link NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #28

Further to our discussion last night ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #37

NSA. Lying liars who lie. And lie. And lie. And lie. And then lie some more. blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #2

Lying to the American People and Congress is legal. MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #3

Lying to the American people and Congress is our policy. nt bemildred Jul 2014 #5

The NSA Lied ?? - Color Me SHOCKED !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #7

Tee hee hee libodem Jul 2014 #18

Perhaps they meant LEGAL access? George II Jul 2014 #8

And that is precisely the point ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #13

Blah, Blah,... BillZBubb Jul 2014 #19

Willie Sutton had access to the cash drawers of the banks he robbed. George II Jul 2014 #21

Best way to rob a bank is to own it. Pholus Jul 2014 #29

Totally off the track.....we were talking about "access" vs. "legal access" George II Jul 2014 #31

Isn't that the complete point in the end... Pholus Jul 2014 #36

Remind me again ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #23

The NSA/CIA were given an unlimited budget and carte blanche to do what they wanted to rhett o rick Jul 2014 #24

Well, there you have it. NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #26

Yes anyone can make accusations and Snowden has made some along with a few other people. rhett o rick Jul 2014 #35

Snowden is not a whistle-blower by definition. NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #38

You rationalize your hatred. You look so deeply into Snowden that you miss the real issue. Is the rhett o rick Jul 2014 #42

I keep forgetting ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #44

I don't think she needs me to defend her, but what "name calling"? George II Jul 2014 #32

"And that is precisely the point ... ... that the Snowdenistas choose to ignore " rhett o rick Jul 2014 #34

Would LOVE To Know Your Feelings On This... WillyT Jul 2014 #20

crickets, Willy, crickets..........nt grasswire Jul 2014 #40

Yep... WillyT Jul 2014 #41

You would LOVE to know my feelings ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #46

What remains unanswered for certain is if Snowden took files related to military intelligence Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #12

He might have. There are good reasons why he might have as well. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #15

LOL. Not like they can trade on the NSA's reputation for truthtelling! Pholus Jul 2014 #30

"he gathered EVERYTHING he could get his hands on in a short time frame.... George II Jul 2014 #33

And then there is this ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #47

I suspect we are constantly lied to libodem Jul 2014 #17

In a way, it's like a PR battle for the hearts and minds of public opinion... Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #43