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NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
44. I keep forgetting ...
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 12:56 AM
Jul 2014

... this site is now Black-&-White Underground.

If you point out the untruths in Snowden's statements, you hate him

If you express doubt that Warren can be elected POTUS, you hate her.

If you mention that some teachers are lousy educators, you hate all teachers.

By the same token:

If you opine that the vast majority of cops are good, decent people doing their jobs well, you're defending police brutality.

If you enjoy Woody Allen movies, you're a pedophile enabler.

If you open a door for a woman, you're a misogynist.

If you shave your legs and armpits, you're not a feminist.

If you flirt with a woman you find attractive, you're objectifying her.

If you support Obama, you're a mindless idol worshipper.

Black-&-White - no shades of gray. If you're not 100% on-board with one position, it means you are 100% on-board with the exact opposite position.

It is exactly that kind of thinking that reeks of "blindly following authoritarian leaders", those leaders being those on this site who keep laying down the law of what one is allowed to think or express in black-and-white terms, no exceptions.

In fact, I've seen you lay down the law yourself by telling posters that if they don't weigh-in on thread topics that YOU think are important, they are not really Democrats. You consistently call anyone who disagrees with you "authoritarians", "water-carriers for the 1%", etc. - and then you whine about people calling other people names when you're on the receiving end of that very behaviour.

"But go ahead and lynch Snowden and see if you feel better."

Goes directly to my point: If you point out Snowden's lies, his contradictions, or question his motives, you're "lynching" him. No in-between there - only black-and-white. You're either on-board 100% with everything the man has said and done, or you want to lynch him.

You should really try venturing out into the real world once in a while. It's a lot more colourful where people can express all kinds of things that go beyond the black-and-white thinking that has taken hold here.

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But everyone knows Snowden is a liar... BillZBubb Jul 2014 #1
I think he's been doing it on purpose. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #4
I think it's the news agencies that are dribbling it out. cui bono Jul 2014 #6
No, he keeps dribbling things out so that he can stay in the limelight and headlines George II Jul 2014 #9
yuh-huh. sure he is.. frylock Jul 2014 #11
NSA groupies? NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #10
The Groupie speaks! BillZBubb Jul 2014 #14
I have rarely posted here ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #22
Yet again... grasswire Jul 2014 #39
Do I think US citizens are living in a "surveillance state"? NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #45
A few are NSA groupies. JoeyT Jul 2014 #16
Hmmm ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #25
Okie doke. JoeyT Jul 2014 #27
The first link NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #28
Further to our discussion last night ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #37
NSA. Lying liars who lie. And lie. And lie. And lie. And then lie some more. blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #2
Lying to the American People and Congress is legal. MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #3
Lying to the American people and Congress is our policy. nt bemildred Jul 2014 #5
The NSA Lied ?? - Color Me SHOCKED !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #7
Tee hee hee libodem Jul 2014 #18
Perhaps they meant LEGAL access? George II Jul 2014 #8
And that is precisely the point ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #13
Blah, Blah,... BillZBubb Jul 2014 #19
Willie Sutton had access to the cash drawers of the banks he robbed. George II Jul 2014 #21
Best way to rob a bank is to own it. Pholus Jul 2014 #29
Totally off the track.....we were talking about "access" vs. "legal access" George II Jul 2014 #31
Isn't that the complete point in the end... Pholus Jul 2014 #36
Remind me again ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #23
The NSA/CIA were given an unlimited budget and carte blanche to do what they wanted to rhett o rick Jul 2014 #24
Well, there you have it. NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #26
Yes anyone can make accusations and Snowden has made some along with a few other people. rhett o rick Jul 2014 #35
Snowden is not a whistle-blower by definition. NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #38
You rationalize your hatred. You look so deeply into Snowden that you miss the real issue. Is the rhett o rick Jul 2014 #42
I keep forgetting ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #44
I don't think she needs me to defend her, but what "name calling"? George II Jul 2014 #32
"And that is precisely the point ... ... that the Snowdenistas choose to ignore " rhett o rick Jul 2014 #34
Would LOVE To Know Your Feelings On This... WillyT Jul 2014 #20
crickets, Willy, crickets..........nt grasswire Jul 2014 #40
Yep... WillyT Jul 2014 #41
You would LOVE to know my feelings ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #46
What remains unanswered for certain is if Snowden took files related to military intelligence Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #12
He might have. There are good reasons why he might have as well. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #15
LOL. Not like they can trade on the NSA's reputation for truthtelling! Pholus Jul 2014 #30
"he gathered EVERYTHING he could get his hands on in a short time frame.... George II Jul 2014 #33
And then there is this ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #47
I suspect we are constantly lied to libodem Jul 2014 #17
In a way, it's like a PR battle for the hearts and minds of public opinion... Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #43
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