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jeff47

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25. Again, GMO is not the same thing as "RoundUp Ready"
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 02:25 PM
Jul 2014
The OP states that using the massive amounts of pesticides that are part of the system created for GMO crops is leading to disease in the farmers and workers.

Ok, list the massive amounts of pesticides that are part of growing silkworms.

What I'm trying to get across is "Ban all GMOs!!!!!" is like saying "Ban all antibiotics!!!!" when one antibiotic causes allergic reactions.

These corporations have created a dangerous loop that is bad for everyone in order to make profits.

One corporation has created a dangerous loop. Yes, they are a major player in agriculture. But they do not produce all GMOs.

It sounds hippy, but there are many pioneers who are trying to do just, it might not equal maximum profit, so the big corps don't care.

And guess what they're doing? Genetically modifying crops to be drought-tolerant, for example.

Again, GMO is not the same as RoundUp ready.

And the last thing is, if these products are so wonderful, they should be able to withstand open testing from every corner of the scientific community. The companies have not allowed this to happen and actively shut down independent testing.

A company has shut down independent testing.

Fact is, the world's population has reached a point where "classic" farming can't feed everyone reliably. Just not enough reliable yield per acre. We've been depleting topsoil, draining aquifers, and other bad practices for quite a while now in order to make up for that. Obviously that can't continue. And climate change makes the situation worse.

GMOs that are not made by people as evil as Monsanto are a large key to solving that problem. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater because Monsanto is evil is not a good idea.

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The increase of pancreatic, liver, bowel and kidney cancer ... rukm pbmus Jul 2014 #1
this I gotta see-American corporations often get away with murder Stargazer99 Jul 2014 #3
Oh yea, Eff those round up ready idiots nolabels Jul 2014 #50
They will blame it on Socialism and supplements. djean111 Jul 2014 #2
Yeah,...those Third World Hippies are EVERYWHERE. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #27
It won't hurt Monsanto. In fact there is probably a trade agreement like the TPP rhett o rick Jul 2014 #4
Yes BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #6
This is one of the major arguments against GMOs but the defenders never listened BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #5
GMO != RoundUp jeff47 Jul 2014 #11
You simply don't get it. Orrex Jul 2014 #13
No, I do get it. You don't. jeff47 Jul 2014 #14
As a matter of practice, I do not use the sarcasm smiley. Orrex Jul 2014 #18
Try the sarcasm indicator Treant Jul 2014 #22
The poster you responded to was being sarcastic BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #23
Again, GMO is not the same thing as "RoundUp Ready" jeff47 Jul 2014 #25
Syngenta, Dow, DuPont, Bayer KurtNYC Jul 2014 #33
Remember that old phrase... littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #37
Details are important jeff47 Jul 2014 #43
Again, we are building in bad practices so a few corps can make money BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #45
Yes details are important -- what I cite is ERS and USDA data from the real world, THOUSANDS of test KurtNYC Jul 2014 #48
We are not completely at odds then BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #34
We shouldn't conflate food with medicine jeff47 Jul 2014 #46
I think I'll leave it at that BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #47
Thank. You. Treant Jul 2014 #24
And just to be sure those farmers don't save seed, Monsanto sues them. Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #30
Thank you. silverweb Jul 2014 #36
Exactly! It is THE argument against them! arcane1 Jul 2014 #28
Last farmer I talked with about GMO corn told me his yield averaged ... pbmus Jul 2014 #39
Yes, and the cost is higher at the end of the day BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #40
great post! DLnyc Jul 2014 #7
Nope. It might put a dent in profits. But they'll be just fine. progressoid Jul 2014 #8
"At a 2011 health summit...." 2011, people. NOT 2001-2008. Very depressing. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #9
Dehydration could also be causing kidney failure perdita9 Jul 2014 #10
Change the name of the disease to Monsanto Fever CanonRay Jul 2014 #12
Wow. Thank you! nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #15
Kidneys. As a person living with Sjogren's littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #16
Nah, they'll be just fine. geardaddy Jul 2014 #17
Where are all the USA DCP littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #19
Very good read! Thanks Judi Lynn. littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #20
I have a problem Nitram Jul 2014 #21
In Central America, most water is from wells..... happyslug Jul 2014 #31
And I don't trust the same companies that brought us Agent Orange and the like BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #38
Here is a report that states the heavy metals, mostly Arsenic is an ingredient of Round up: happyslug Jul 2014 #41
Great info BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #44
No I think it is a combination that is hitting just right do to Round Up. happyslug Jul 2014 #49
Round Up is "pulling arsenic from the ground!?!" Nitram Jul 2014 #52
If the hypothesis is that... Nitram Jul 2014 #51
Duplicate posting happyslug Jul 2014 #32
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #26
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #29
I wanna know too BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #35
I want to know where they are in this thread ... MindMover Jul 2014 #42
Thank you, Judy Lynn. nt. polly7 Jul 2014 #53
Kick. Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #54
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