Monsanto's Herbicide Linked to Fatal Kidney Disease Epidemic: Could It Topple Monsanto?

[KurtNYC]

48. Yes details are important -- what I cite is ERS and USDA data from the real world, THOUSANDS of test

thousands of plots. One seed versus another, same conditions and practices. Simple one variable tests. Plus all the millions of data points that the USDA collects from real farms.

I'm confused your assertion:

importantly, I'm not talking about Monsanto's products and RoundUp.

That is what this thread began with. Are you saying that you only want to talk about products from Dow, Syngenta and Bayer? Monsanto's patent on Glyphosate (aka "round up) expired 14 years ago so it is made by many companies now. So it easy to not talk about Monsanto specifically but they are a big part of the data I am citing:

Researchers have thousands of tests underway in U.S. fields for new crops, ERS reported. As of September 2013, about 7,800 releases have been approved for genetically engineered (GE) corn, more than 2,200 for GE soybeans, more than 1,100 for GE cotton, and about 900 for GE potatoes.

Of those releases, 6772 were for GE varieties with herbicide tolerance, 4,809 for insect resistance, and 4,896 for product quality such as flavor or nutrition, and 5,190 for drought resistance.

Monsanto has the most authorized field releases with 6,782, followed by DuPont Pioneer, with 1,405.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/24/usda-gmo-report-idUSL1N0LT16M20140224

Ethanol?

Even drought resistant crops need SOME water. There are unplanted fields in California this year which implies that those farmers, with great soil and great knowledge, couldn't find ONE crop to put in without water.

and finally, Herbicide depletes topsoil so how is your citation of topsoil depletion helping your case for GMO?