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BethanyQuartz

(193 posts)
48. Nothing is Free
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:27 PM
Apr 2013

Nothing is free. Take that word out. Even if you are walking along and you see a cookie in front of a 'free food' sign, you still expend energy picking it up to eat it. Money is merely a symbol of resources, time, and human energy.

So the real question is, who should control access to water and who, if anyone, should be permitted to profit from that control?

The answer is not simple. One might say the people who own the land the water is on should control it. But what if a group owns the source of a river and decides to dam it up in order to keep it all for themselves?

One might say that the owner is whoever mixes their labor with the water to make it drinkable or safer to drink. This would seem to support companies like Nestle, until one asks a simple question: Why would any country or community allow a private corporation to access, purify, and then own the water supply? What stops communities from acquiring and using the technology to turn their groundwater, fresh water, and possibly salt water into drinkable water themselves?

That goes to the heart of the matter. Politics, war, colonialism stop communities from controlling their own resources. Corrupt governments installed by powerful nations for the benefit of corporations stop communities from purifying and controlling their own water. This is far more often the case than a lack of access to the technology and funds to implement that technology.

Therefore in a world with vast inequalities favoring a few wealthy nations, world organizations concerned with human rights and human health and philanthropists with similar concerns should assist nations that are unable to properly purify their own drinking water so that they can do so. Private corporations should be barred from interfering or profiting, not because water should be 'free', but because these corporations prey on people who have been put at a severe disadvantage by international politics.

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Jesus freaking christ darkangel218 Apr 2013 #1
That was my first thought. Effing putrid scum. snagglepuss Apr 2013 #5
This is where we should draw the line. Water is a right. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #32
Nestle is an evil corporation, worse than most, if that's possible. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2013 #2
You and me both! xxqqqzme Apr 2013 #22
another since the 70s bluemarkers Apr 2013 #71
I am going to join you as of this moment Samantha Apr 2013 #44
Thank you! CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2013 #99
We are slowly expanding the concept of "human rights" Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #3
Wrong question.... daleanime Apr 2013 #6
No, I asked the question I wanted to ask. Your question is different and easier. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #7
nestle wants to be the ONLY provider leaving no choice but them nt msongs Apr 2013 #88
Competitive water systems exist but are not efficient in the developing world. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #105
The difference being that, we collectively pay for our water... and our water has common ownership.. Veilex Apr 2013 #97
A lot of models are out there, including in the US. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #111
the worst case scenario should not be realized in any instance. EOM Veilex Apr 2013 #135
I have had my water shut off for being less than 30 days late. Cannikin Apr 2013 #140
That's pretty horrible. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #141
It was in 07 Cannikin Apr 2013 #143
I agree. That was unthinkable. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #144
Yes. City of Springdale, AR Cannikin Apr 2013 #148
Mine was shut off 2 weeks ago OriginalGeek Apr 2013 #157
No warning? No follow up notice? No phone call? Email? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #158
I can't promise you that - there could have been notices OriginalGeek Apr 2013 #159
That's still pretty horrible. Quite literally, water is life. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #160
In Tn. where commoners are shit. dotymed Apr 2013 #154
Yes. caseymoz Apr 2013 #98
You live somewhere that gives you water for free? Where is that? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #112
Have you walked into a restaurant? caseymoz Apr 2013 #128
That is not what he said. He said it needed to be paid for by everyone, he passed right over .... marble falls Apr 2013 #146
I disagree, Buzz. bvar22 Apr 2013 #17
K&R to this post! Never was the Democratic party so admirable a when pursuing policies Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 2013 #90
Those ideas and principles of The New Deal, bvar22 Apr 2013 #117
Should water be free? brush Apr 2013 #18
You didn't answer my question. It was far simpler than you made it to be. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #24
Sufficient water for drinking and personal hygiene should be free starroute Apr 2013 #30
Thank you. That was a very rational answer. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #35
Of course I agree with starroute brush Apr 2013 #69
You have yet to answer a question. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #75
The questions . . . well, I don't think they should've even been asked? nt brush Apr 2013 #120
The Nestle guy agrees with you thesquanderer Apr 2013 #132
But the Nestle guy believes the other 98.5% should be his to make a profit starroute Apr 2013 #136
Water is not a product of human engineering or work; it's a gift from Earth. Who owns that? If not freshwest Apr 2013 #124
You're taking this is a bit different direction. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #126
I agree anyone who facilitates life through water should be paid to keep doing it, and well. But not freshwest Apr 2013 #127
Water should not be free for those who seek to profit from it. It is a dotymed Apr 2013 #155
Ok, I kind of agree. However -- Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #156
should land be free? cvoogt Apr 2013 #37
Should land be free ? airplaneman Apr 2013 #152
Sounds familiar cvoogt Apr 2013 #153
Should air be free? geomon666 Apr 2013 #67
water is not free KT2000 Apr 2013 #34
Excellent response in the first two paragraphs. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #39
Or just don't privatize it at all. /nt Marr Apr 2013 #40
If the government is incapable (and many are), then we deny the citizens' their right to water? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #45
If a govt is 'incapable,' how is it going to regulate for-profit water companies? Doremus Apr 2013 #61
The first duty of just about every government is to set up a bureaucracy. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #83
When did I say I don't like capitalism? Marr Apr 2013 #122
My mistake on the capitalism comment. A bad assumption on my part. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #125
This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Apr 2013 #38
I think they should be single payer. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #76
I'm not sure what that means in this context. Could you explain "single payer" in terms of water? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #84
Paid for by taxes and available to all. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #89
Ah. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #92
How about air? Should you have a "right" to breathe? Moostache Apr 2013 #79
Air? No one is cleaning air and sending it to your home to breathe. Not a good example. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #86
One of the benefits of civilization... ljm2002 Apr 2013 #107
If delivery is your only point then I retract... Moostache Apr 2013 #121
Bechtel screwed up massively in Bolivia. They were horrible to the people, and were treated as such. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #123
These natural resources are a part of "the commons." dotymed Apr 2013 #106
This what greed does liberal N proud Apr 2013 #4
Good God, are we certain this is real? enough Apr 2013 #8
Read up on the water wars of Bolivia. GreenPartyVoter Apr 2013 #36
Privatization has been going on in the US for decades. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #49
We've been fighting water-privatization in our neighborhood here in the US enough Apr 2013 #133
France Crow73 Apr 2013 #9
sort of... progressoid Apr 2013 #16
As a person cannot survive without water avebury Apr 2013 #10
I absolutely agree! gopiscrap Apr 2013 #64
What's next? Oxygen? KansDem Apr 2013 #11
Unfortunately, the air we breathe IS being managed by "businessmen", bvar22 Apr 2013 #19
Ziiing! That jolted me. JimDandy Apr 2013 #57
Exactly the type of sociopath that should not be in charge of Vinnie From Indy Apr 2013 #12
HERE COME THE WATER WARS leftyohiolib Apr 2013 #13
Water wars have been fought for a long, long time. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #47
They'd patent water, if they could. leveymg Apr 2013 #14
Have you bought any water in those cute plastic bottles... bvar22 Apr 2013 #20
I'll take mine in the raw, thank you. leveymg Apr 2013 #23
patent it shebornik Apr 2013 #21
Future water and food rationing, along with genetic birth control in grains foodstuffs, and robotics DhhD Apr 2013 #15
Someone needs to put these people out of their misery. loudsue Apr 2013 #25
Agreed - and it will start happening. firenewt Apr 2013 #100
Enjoy your Calistoga, Perrier, Poland Springs, Arrowhead, Pellegrino, and other botted waters. NYC_SKP Apr 2013 #26
More money for meeeeeeeeeee Iliyah Apr 2013 #27
Privatized LindaCollins11 Apr 2013 #28
Translation - We Own It - You Have To Pay For It cantbeserious Apr 2013 #29
Water is Already Being Managed in Most Developed Countries - But as a Public Resource dballance Apr 2013 #31
Then I can sue Nestlé for damages when their water comes through my roof. Downwinder Apr 2013 #33
As long as you can proof that it's THEIR water. DetlefK Apr 2013 #42
here goes any future purchases of his products DainBramaged Apr 2013 #41
Fick dich, Peter Alkene Apr 2013 #43
This OP is BS oberliner Apr 2013 #46
+1 Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #50
Even in the video... ljm2002 Apr 2013 #103
Nothing is Free BethanyQuartz Apr 2013 #48
The Nestle Empire is going to... TRoN33 Apr 2013 #51
Air is next. hobbit709 Apr 2013 #52
Let's not kid ourselves they are already doing this Smilo Apr 2013 #53
Edison tried to patent the carbon ring which falls to the base of a lightbulb Rain Mcloud Apr 2013 #54
Nestle has sued small Maine villages repeatedly magical thyme Apr 2013 #55
Arughhhh TRoN33 Apr 2013 #56
Fuck you, Nestle sakabatou Apr 2013 #58
Pure evil Carolina Apr 2013 #59
Land of the Free, Home of the Brave, Brimley Apr 2013 #60
What a fucking asshole gopiscrap Apr 2013 #62
Water is not a Human Right.... radhika Apr 2013 #63
Wasn't this assholes company the subject gopiscrap Apr 2013 #65
Well, Nestle is something that's going on my no-buy list. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #66
Today water, tomorrow it will be air. olegramps Apr 2013 #68
Hell, I think food is a basic human right. AllyCat Apr 2013 #70
It is. Why do you think Mother Nature put all those plants, berry bushes and Cleita Apr 2013 #81
Corporations can go privative all the water they have made unfit for human consumption. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #72
It should be managed, like everything else, but not by businessmen adieu Apr 2013 #73
People who think like this are enemies They_Live Apr 2013 #74
No thanks, I do not trust privately owned, for profit corporations AndyA Apr 2013 #77
Perhaps he should be required to prove his statement by going without water Cleita Apr 2013 #78
Corporate Persons BethanyQuartz Apr 2013 #80
Here is a web site dedicated to fighting Nestle's water policies GitRDun Apr 2013 #82
It's a human right and it's necessary to live. Apophis Apr 2013 #85
Is this really about denying someone water? I don't think so... Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #87
the corporate model is you don't pay, you don't get nt msongs Apr 2013 #91
Not necessarily. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #94
Wow. Apophis Apr 2013 #113
No, I know a helluva lot about this. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #116
This is the type of moronic thinking that happens when a person lets money dictate reason gtar100 Apr 2013 #93
i've reduced my purchases of Nestle products since first heard this crap. complete asshole samsingh Apr 2013 #95
kick samsingh Apr 2013 #137
Surprise, surprise... ljm2002 Apr 2013 #96
These types would charge you for breathing air. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #101
And who does he think should own it? caseymoz Apr 2013 #102
Himself and his 1% cronies of course. Any one else needs to pony up cash. n/t Cleita Apr 2013 #104
Right, and I think we're in real trouble. caseymoz Apr 2013 #108
The need for water for clean water is so basic, that even the Romans realized that Cleita Apr 2013 #110
It's so basic that the people who own it caseymoz Apr 2013 #129
No kidding. n/t Cleita Apr 2013 #131
This video is a perfect example of corporate/capitalist mentality. He lays it all out very clearly. gtar100 Apr 2013 #109
Expect Nestlé brand flavored Sugar Water zebonaut Apr 2013 #114
The Evil is strong in this one... BadGimp Apr 2013 #115
Where the guillotine when you need one? Bohemianwriter Apr 2013 #118
Hey 'freak'... El Shaman Apr 2013 #119
Typical greedy corporate asshole Blue Owl Apr 2013 #130
Anons should shut down all of Nestle's and Brabeck's computerized operations until he ancianita Apr 2013 #134
Does anyone know this clown's address?? OldRedneck Apr 2013 #138
Nestlé is an evil corporation that should be boycotted GETPLANING Apr 2013 #139
Nestlê are bastards VA_Jill Apr 2013 #142
Glad to see this posted again, but there was an earlier post here... drokhole Apr 2013 #145
Let's lynch this MF... xtraxritical Apr 2013 #147
Does he mean managed by a crook? Jake2413 Apr 2013 #149
Wow! What an evil, arrogant, fucking prick! Kennah Apr 2013 #150
I believe we need to start breaking up all large corporations. airplaneman Apr 2013 #151
Top Rated Youtube Comment On The Video is : Joel thakkar Apr 2013 #161
Nestle should have been broken up after their man made baby formulator disaster in Africa! pam4water Jun 2013 #162
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