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davidthegnome

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34. The truth does often hurt.
Mon May 6, 2013, 01:59 PM
May 2013

It is also, in entirely too many cases, extremely subjective. That the US is like a "top terrorist state" is Chomsky's opinion, not a fact.

Yes, we have been responsible for much of the violence and terror in the world, we have also been responsible for much of the charity, much of the building, much of the lending and much of the feeding - not enough in any instance, I'll grant, but much of it. What does this tell us? That the US is a top terrorist state that is as evil as the enemies we rant about? Or perhaps that in this cultural melting pot, we are more within a shade of grey, that we regularly do both great and terrible things.

Generally when people speak of terror today, they're talking about violent religious fanatics, gangs, criminals, etc. The word is rarely used with any true attention paid to it's meaning. If, by terrorist state, Chomsky is suggesting that we inspire fear in others, then he is correct. If he is comparing us to koolaid drinking lunatics like the ones that blew up the world trade center... he is very much incorrect.

I'm trying to figure out how it is NOT arrogant to compare the US to a top terrorist state. Chomsky's opinions are only opinions.

As someone who is a student in a fairly small university (at least until next year, when there's no financial possibility of going back...) one of the things that bothers me most about my fellow students is the almost complete lack of any original ideas. Chomsky's ideas may be worthy of discussion, but they are not gospel truth, or fact, or indisputable. I'd like to see more from regular people, who, unfortunately, for the most part disappoint me either by not caring, or by merely parroting the ideas of someone else.

Perhaps Chomsky strikes a nerve for me, because I see him as an arrogant intellectual puffed up on his brilliance. Perhaps I'm wrong. I may be entirely unfair to call him arrogant without knowing him personally - but that is how I see him. The vast majority of "intellectuals" I deal with believe they are brilliant because they have memorized someone else's theories, because they know random facts and trivia... not, generally, because they themselves have done anything exceptionally intelligent.

Perhaps my beef is really with how we define intelligence in America...

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Ah, Chomsky! Newest Reality May 2013 #1
I miss Howard Zinn who I give tribute to along with Chomsky. L0oniX May 2013 #7
Excellent post. blackspade May 2013 #19
Well... greytdemocrat May 2013 #2
Yep. davidthegnome May 2013 #3
I'm sure Albert's x wife would disagree a bit. L0oniX May 2013 #8
By All Means liberalmike27 May 2013 #11
Sorry but, extreme arrogance davidthegnome May 2013 #13
Damn all those arrogant scientists, too radiclib May 2013 #14
Way to entirely miss the point. davidthegnome May 2013 #17
You got that right radiclib May 2013 #21
The content of his ideas? davidthegnome May 2013 #22
Now that you've finally gone beyond mere personal insults radiclib May 2013 #30
Extreme arragance is believing lies instead of the truth. You seem to have his backwards. Coyotl May 2013 #15
Perhaps from people who are highly intelligent... davidthegnome May 2013 #18
Arrogance? SitchaChante May 2013 #24
Thank you and welcome to DU, SitchaChante. dotymed May 2013 #31
The truth does often hurt. davidthegnome May 2013 #34
Welcome to DU my friend! hrmjustin May 2013 #35
Your still presenting a failed ad hominem attack. grahamhgreen May 2013 #26
Chomsky, to me, is not Newest Reality May 2013 #12
+1000 blackspade May 2013 #20
That applies to you too, I suppose Coyotl May 2013 #4
The arguer, being or not being sulphurdunn May 2013 #6
But at least we Turbineguy May 2013 #5
US insurance corporations ARE terrorists. n/t L0oniX May 2013 #9
Noam Chomsky hits the nail on its head by realizing terrorist acts by a righteous superpower indepat May 2013 #10
^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^ +1000000000000000 Coyotl May 2013 #16
We are not a terrorist state treestar May 2013 #23
No, we just start wars based on lies and kill a lot of people, shock and awe and all that Coyotl May 2013 #25
The Afghanistan war was not based on a lie treestar May 2013 #28
But we do torture, so that makes us a.... grahamhgreen May 2013 #27
We don't torture at this time treestar May 2013 #29
Not true. Failure to prosecute for the crime of torture means that torture is available for use, grahamhgreen May 2013 #32
he said, hopefully. Coyotl May 2013 #33
War and the threat of war is terror. usGovOwesUs3Trillion May 2013 #36
Somehow we beat Germany, Japan treestar May 2013 #37
and usGovOwesUs3Trillion May 2013 #38
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