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zeemike

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8. Well I don't know that he did.

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:51 PM

Jun 2013

I only know what the media tells me, but what I do know is the media is compromised in spades and I don't take their word for things any more than you will take his.

Besides he has the right to defend his life from a lawless government that could and would whack him if they got the chance, or put him in prison and torture him...so no one owns them their life....we are not at war with China, and in fact China owns a big piece of America because these same corporate bastards sold it to them.

Our loyalty should be to the constitution not to an out of control government that is ignoring it.
And just as the Neurimburg trials established that you are not compelled to obey an illigal or immoral order so it is with one that is unconstitutional....and data mining clearly is.

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Chris Hedges: Figures like Snowden Deeply Courageous [View all] damnedifIknow Jun 2013 OP

Yes 90-percent Jun 2013 #1

Chris Tells It Like It Is cantbeserious Jun 2013 #2

Did Hedges say this before or after Snowden told the Chinese about US surveillance of China? SunSeeker Jun 2013 #3

I don't get the significance here. reusrename Jun 2013 #4

There is nothing heroic about a guy who turns out to be a traitor. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #5

my guess is that just about anything would have seald it for you zeemike Jun 2013 #6

He could have raised the issue without betraying us to China. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #7

Well I don't know that he did. zeemike Jun 2013 #8

Requiring he maintain secret our method of surveillance on China was not an "immoral order." SunSeeker Jun 2013 #9

I did not say it was zeemike Jun 2013 #10

Two wrongs don't make a right. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #11

Again, we are not at war with China. zeemike Jun 2013 #12

Surveillance of foreign countries is why Truman created the NSA. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #13

Well I guess it is in your best interest to spy on your neighbor too. zeemike Jun 2013 #14

No, it is not in my best interest to spy on people in my neighborhood. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #15

I was not being sarcastic I was dead serious zeemike Jun 2013 #16

He is getting charged. And he will have a fair trial. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #17

Bullshit....he will never live to tell his story in open court. zeemike Jun 2013 #18

The last well-publicized NSA leaker, Thomas Drake, is doing just fine. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #19

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