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spooky3

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24. Vague opinions expressed by the quoted official do not constitute evidence and
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 09:48 PM
Jul 2013

do not address my point about the specifics.

If, for example, you went before even one of the TV judges and said your neighbor's post about you on Facebook had caused you "great harm" but provided no evidence, even they would laugh you out of their courtroom.

Further, Snowden himself was quoted by the same article that you linked as saying:

"I don't know what specific information they were looking for on these machines, only that using technical exploits to gain unauthorised access to civilian machines is a violation of law. It's ethically dubious," Snowden said in the interview on Wednesday.

If he is correct, then (a) even he doesn't know many specifics (other than IP addresses, which he obviously mentioned to the media to provide specific evidence of wrongdoing in what was probably the least harmful way) and there is no evidence of genuine harm to the US from his revelation, and (b) these governmental actions are illegal and unethical and we have no right to engage in them. We know THOSE ACTIONS harm us and our reputation throughout the world (as well as harming others) and that should be a concern. And it is more than a little ironic that we have criticized China for hacking into private computers in the US to steal intellectual property, etc., if we are also hacking into private computers there.

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Snowden has distracted Mellisa and now she is starting to ask questions about a program midnight Jul 2013 #1
You are giving this the most charitable interpretation BlueStreak Jul 2013 #2
Hmm rdubwiley Jul 2013 #3
2 points BlueStreak Jul 2013 #6
My argument against Snowden shawn703 Jul 2013 #4
But what evidence do you have of that? spooky3 Jul 2013 #5
Thank you. That is my question as well. BlueStreak Jul 2013 #7
good points that many people overlook spooky3 Jul 2013 #27
For example shawn703 Jul 2013 #8
Vague opinions expressed by the quoted official do not constitute evidence and spooky3 Jul 2013 #24
I contend that shawn703 Jul 2013 #29
Supposition Is Not The Same As Facts cantbeserious Jul 2013 #9
The facts are there shawn703 Jul 2013 #10
All Here Say Evidence Conveniently Corroborated By The FBI - Does One Expect The Government To Be Honest cantbeserious Jul 2013 #11
I'm not sure I follow shawn703 Jul 2013 #12
I Am Writing About The Article I Was Pointed To Up Thread As Validating Snowden's Guilt cantbeserious Jul 2013 #14
So you disagree with this part? shawn703 Jul 2013 #16
I Am Saying That I No Longer Trust Things Said By Minions Of The Government Justifying Their Actions cantbeserious Jul 2013 #19
Snowden "revealed" information in which George W spoke publicly about in 2005, how Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #13
What Did He Steal That Was Not Already Stolen From Citizens By Desecrating The 4th Amendment cantbeserious Jul 2013 #15
Stolen? it was obtained by warrants, the Fourth does not specify where the warrant is obtained. Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #17
Warrants All Rubber Stamped By Justice Roberts Secret Court - I Place No Faith In Such Warrants cantbeserious Jul 2013 #18
And you have faith in a thief, wow, guess I dont trust a thief. Spy and Lie. Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #20
You Have Faith In The Government - I Hope That Faith Is Not Misplaced - I No Longer Share Your Faith cantbeserious Jul 2013 #21
I sure dont trust a thief, so i choose to stay away from thieves. Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #22
And I Sure Don't Intend To Place My Faith In A Government That Spies On Its Citizens cantbeserious Jul 2013 #23
So you trust a thief whi spies on you and gives the information to whomever he pleases, keep Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #25
On This Matter We Will Have To Agree To Disagree cantbeserious Jul 2013 #26
Do you ever use public transportation or even the internet? Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #28
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