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freedom fighter jh

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15. Yes, the public has a right to know what the government knows, at least most of it.
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 08:41 AM
Aug 2013

Half of what gives NSA their outsized power is that they hold all the information cards. They can threaten to release info (but not if it's already in the public domain) and they can even lie about what's in there (but not if it's in the public domain). Of course there are exceptions: information that truly would put national security at risk, trade secrets, medical records, a few other things.

Still, I'd try real hard to roll surveillance back before being resigned that it can't be rolled back. There's lots of stuff in there that no one, government or private, has any right to know. Folks do have a right to secrets. You cannot destroy the technology, in the sense that once someone has figured out how to do it it can be done again. But you can take that technology off of government computers and pass a law against government computers having it.

What we really need is a better check on government and its surveillance powers -- in other words, loyalty to the Fourth Amendment. What it comes down to is more power to the people and less to government.

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Not to metion the fact Lonr Aug 2013 #1
The metadata is what they use to map our social networks. reusrename Aug 2013 #5
kick Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #2
I am with Grayson on this issue. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #3
K&R - Grayson is so in the right place at right time. Thanks Alan. ~nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #4
I doubt it's possible to roll back this technology. reusrename Aug 2013 #6
Yes, the public has a right to know what the government knows, at least most of it. freedom fighter jh Aug 2013 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2013 #7
Law is another of his expertise too.... A Harvard Law Graduate... midnight Aug 2013 #11
con-servative-democrat? do you know anything about bonniebgood Aug 2013 #12
hush now. he's 'reality based' KG Aug 2013 #13
How can you say that? freedom fighter jh Aug 2013 #16
Grayson SamKnause Aug 2013 #17
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knr Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #8
K&R nenagh Aug 2013 #9
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #10
i'm totally with Grayson on this. blackspade Aug 2013 #14
I'm counting on Grayson's calm and logic.... midnight Aug 2013 #18
Congressman Grayson is a patriot, and national treasure. nt silvershadow Aug 2013 #19
Fearless! Iwillnevergiveup Aug 2013 #20
He seems to have unmatched integrity Mosaic Aug 2013 #21
I know... Isn't it refreshing... midnight Aug 2013 #23
K&R for Congressman Grayson! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2013 #24
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