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In reply to the discussion: Pic Of The Moment: Shutdown Day 14: Palin And Cruz Join Regrettable Tea Party Protest [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)37. I'm not buying their excuses nor their march. People are doing without food, shelter and medical,
and instead of organizing against that, they follow the lead of the GOP in abusing federal workers for the privilege of visiting a monument.
This was a RW PR stunt, from its very beginnning. This was not apolitical. Nothing about this shut down is apoltical. They are blaming Obama for something the GOP did. They picked a side. These marches were orgnaized by the GOP the first day of the shutdown as PR stunts to gin people up. Then these guys play the second chorus. It's not a coincidence.
These people were not naive about what they were doing. There was no sense of proportionality to the real damage being done by the shut down, since they didn't go to the House and tell them to get their act together..
My dad served in WW2 and parks being closed down would not be his first priority. That's for another battle while the nation's social contract and the New Deal have been shredded by the GOP. He would have been raising hell long before this and other parks were closed.
As a member of the CCC in the Great Depression he built parks and other public works. He didn't see them as more sacred than the people they were built to serve. He was a teacher in the arrny, served in the Pacific, was a union machinist and then a businessman.
He knew people are more important than things, so he did not die a wealthy man but was mourned by hundreds who he helped. He would not waste time on something like this if he were still alive. I knew him and my family well, there is no way they would have marched over a park while people were doing without.
This report reads like the complaint of a privileged Libertarian group with all their needs being met, while others are being left behind. Why weren't they doing a march in the halls of the House in D.C. who engineered the shutdown?
It didn't turn into a PR stunt by Cruz and Palin at the end. It was a RW stunt from the beginning. The entire thing was frivolous while people are going without work, losing their homes, and flooding food banks, and now in their old age, being threatened with no payments or 41% on the dollar in benefits. Those people did not inspire action. Is it because they would never march for the ones the GOP call moochers?
This group missed the mark of the big problem so badly, I cannot believe this was begun with good intent. They were there to spit on the system that had nothing to do with the shutdown. I consider all these actions to be abusive and arrogant like berating the help who have no say, by those who consideer themselves to be their 'betters.' At this point, the GOP have made all federal and other public workers, from fire fighters to teachers and park workers, convenient whipping posts. This is unworthy behavior.
No offense to your post, not directed at you at all, but after reading that defense they put out, I could not let it pass. I'm looking at the big picture and this is was wrong from the outset.
I'll bet they all voted for Romney and Ryan with his cut throat budget, too. I know some vets who say this kind of march is BS, for the reasons I cited on the big picture, and it's irrelevant.
Others just hate Obama, and look for any excuse to impeach him and hurt government, since the people dared to elect a black Democrat. This is not what they want, but claim they went to war to protect, back when they believed in America.
Now they believe in Rush and Faux News.
Venting at them, not you. I hope you understand.
This was a RW PR stunt, from its very beginnning. This was not apolitical. Nothing about this shut down is apoltical. They are blaming Obama for something the GOP did. They picked a side. These marches were orgnaized by the GOP the first day of the shutdown as PR stunts to gin people up. Then these guys play the second chorus. It's not a coincidence.
These people were not naive about what they were doing. There was no sense of proportionality to the real damage being done by the shut down, since they didn't go to the House and tell them to get their act together..
My dad served in WW2 and parks being closed down would not be his first priority. That's for another battle while the nation's social contract and the New Deal have been shredded by the GOP. He would have been raising hell long before this and other parks were closed.
As a member of the CCC in the Great Depression he built parks and other public works. He didn't see them as more sacred than the people they were built to serve. He was a teacher in the arrny, served in the Pacific, was a union machinist and then a businessman.
He knew people are more important than things, so he did not die a wealthy man but was mourned by hundreds who he helped. He would not waste time on something like this if he were still alive. I knew him and my family well, there is no way they would have marched over a park while people were doing without.
This report reads like the complaint of a privileged Libertarian group with all their needs being met, while others are being left behind. Why weren't they doing a march in the halls of the House in D.C. who engineered the shutdown?
It didn't turn into a PR stunt by Cruz and Palin at the end. It was a RW stunt from the beginning. The entire thing was frivolous while people are going without work, losing their homes, and flooding food banks, and now in their old age, being threatened with no payments or 41% on the dollar in benefits. Those people did not inspire action. Is it because they would never march for the ones the GOP call moochers?
This group missed the mark of the big problem so badly, I cannot believe this was begun with good intent. They were there to spit on the system that had nothing to do with the shutdown. I consider all these actions to be abusive and arrogant like berating the help who have no say, by those who consideer themselves to be their 'betters.' At this point, the GOP have made all federal and other public workers, from fire fighters to teachers and park workers, convenient whipping posts. This is unworthy behavior.
No offense to your post, not directed at you at all, but after reading that defense they put out, I could not let it pass. I'm looking at the big picture and this is was wrong from the outset.
I'll bet they all voted for Romney and Ryan with his cut throat budget, too. I know some vets who say this kind of march is BS, for the reasons I cited on the big picture, and it's irrelevant.
Others just hate Obama, and look for any excuse to impeach him and hurt government, since the people dared to elect a black Democrat. This is not what they want, but claim they went to war to protect, back when they believed in America.
Now they believe in Rush and Faux News.
Venting at them, not you. I hope you understand.
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Pic Of The Moment: Shutdown Day 14: Palin And Cruz Join Regrettable Tea Party Protest [View all]
EarlG
Oct 2013
OP
True, they might as well been holding a flag with a swastika and wearing white pillow cases
davidpdx
Oct 2013
#76
A crowd of hateful ignorant white republican tea baggers waving the symbol of slavery
workinclasszero
Oct 2013
#13
Million Vet March Organizers Condemn Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, and the Tea Party
Nancy_Thompson
Oct 2013
#21
I'm not buying their excuses nor their march. People are doing without food, shelter and medical,
freshwest
Oct 2013
#37
"Let's march down to the White House and wave a Confederate Flag at the black President."
jjewell
Oct 2013
#25
That's a "Barn Coat" up this way, and Scott "Head Up Ass" Brown, former MA senator,wore one too...
MADem
Oct 2013
#30
Nothing says FREEDUMB like the flag of a country that went to war to preserve slavery. nt
eppur_se_muova
Oct 2013
#42
As others have pointed out, this was klan rally for all intents and purposes. nt
SunSeeker
Oct 2013
#54