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Hassin Bin Sober

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35. You fail to grasp the whole concept of product liability...
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 09:30 PM
Nov 2013

.... and how it relates to delivering a product to a consumer that is supposed to be fit for human consumption at time of delivery. The McD coffee is not fit for human consumption at 180 degrees. That means, as the suit claims, it was "defective".

You seem too quick to come to the defense and release all liability to a corporation that makes it their BUSINESS and makes a profit passing IN TO CARS a product that will cause third degree burns on contact. Don't you think some consideration should be made by the company of the fact they are passing over-temp coffee over their customer's laps?

You act as though there is no guidelines for scalding temperatures as it pertains to water, food or appliances. You say:

"There were no regulations or laws dictating, indicating, advising, nor regulating coffee temperature."
Um, yeah, there are reams of information and guidelines for people/businesses to consult regarding temperature settings.

I build kitchens and baths. I often have occasion to be around and make adjustments to hot water settings on hot water heaters for my clients. I won't set the temp higher than 120 degrees. If the customer wants it any higher they have to do it themselves - with the caveat that 140-150 degrees can scald quickly. I also point out that temperatures should be kept low when children or elderly/disabled people will use the facilities. I always remind my clients of an "ER" reality show I watched where an elderly man fell in the tub and couldn't get out of the way of scalding water and received (and died from) third degree burns over 70% of his body.

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Thanks for posting... suzanner Nov 2013 #1
Its a frivolous lawsuit not because she wasn't burned. She was, horribly. She was burned because ... marble falls Nov 2013 #6
Except for the fact that the coffee was far hotter than it should have been ET Awful Nov 2013 #7
My tea is hotter zipplewrath Nov 2013 #8
Your tea is 180 degrees? I doubt that seriously. ET Awful Nov 2013 #9
The jury did zipplewrath Nov 2013 #10
You seem to have misread the verdict. ET Awful Nov 2013 #11
When served zipplewrath Nov 2013 #12
So, in your world, receiving hundreds of reports of injury doesn't warrant action? ET Awful Nov 2013 #13
Action or responsibility? zipplewrath Nov 2013 #16
Complete and utter nonsense. ET Awful Nov 2013 #19
How low was low enough? zipplewrath Nov 2013 #20
What an astounding demonstration of your lack of reading comprehension . . . ET Awful Nov 2013 #21
I'm trying to stay civil zipplewrath Nov 2013 #22
Ummm. . . they didn't need to know what would satisfy a jury, they needed to listen to the numerous ET Awful Nov 2013 #23
Easy to say in hindsight zipplewrath Nov 2013 #24
You're merely trying to over complicate things. ET Awful Nov 2013 #25
I'll ignore your personal attacks zipplewrath Nov 2013 #30
It's quite obvious that you have no knowledge of what product liability is ET Awful Nov 2013 #32
I understand, I just don't agree zipplewrath Nov 2013 #39
You fail to grasp the whole concept of product liability... Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2013 #35
Oh, I understand it zipplewrath Nov 2013 #38
Please see my post #14 about how a splash on my sister's ankle gave her 3rd degree burns Hekate Nov 2013 #17
I'm sorry for your sister zipplewrath Nov 2013 #18
A buddy of mine spent two weeks in the hospital after spilling... Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2013 #34
except that is not true....they were parked. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #26
Oh, then why did the trial judge portion some of the blame on her and her grandson? marble falls Nov 2013 #31
Proof please.. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #36
I live in the city where it happened and we got a lot more news about it than Chung reported Warpy Nov 2013 #27
One... rsdsharp Nov 2013 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #33
Yes, thank you. Very informative and interesting. closeupready Nov 2013 #2
I had never seen the photos of the burns before this, no one would laugh if they saw those Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #3
Links to some facts on the case... SpankMe Nov 2013 #4
The simple thing would have been for McDonald's to settle for $20,000 davidpdx Nov 2013 #5
A bit? I'd say a bit more than a bit. n/t VWolf Nov 2013 #15
My sis burned her ankle so badly she almost needed a skin graft Hekate Nov 2013 #14
McDonald's Coffee yeoman6987 Nov 2013 #28
1. Watch the video 2. Read the information in this thread 3. Use fewer question marks. Hekate Nov 2013 #37
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