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Sky Masterson

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31. Pretty much.

Sat Jan 18, 2014, 09:15 AM

Jan 2014

"I mean, who is Snowden to decide that the intricacies of our international intelligence gathering should be released to the world? "

This is my biggest problem with people like both Snowden and Manning.
In a way, I'm just as pissed that my government would so easily give access to such information to so many people.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/06/09/government-security-clearance/2406243/
"They are just two of almost 5 million people holding a government security clearance, federal documents show.
A January report from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence says more than 4.9 million people have some sort of government security clearance. About 1.4 million of those lay claim to "top secret" clearance."
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Maher to Greenwald: Every Time Snowden Speaks, 'He Always Says Something F*cking Nuts' [View all] Tx4obama Jan 2014 OP

Snowden witnessed activities that horrified him, that offended his conscience, his sense of fair JDPriestly Jan 2014 #1

And when you see crazy things and try to tell people about it zeemike Jan 2014 #4

Yes. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #6

Friend Snoopy 7 Jan 2014 #37

Oh yes he did! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #80

True, which is one of the reasons people often don't report crazy stuff Cleita Jan 2014 #53

Well put. MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #8

well said. blackspade Jan 2014 #14

not during bush, only after obama won. pansypoo53219 Jan 2014 #57

Greenwald is right. Maher is just pushing trite character assassination hot buttons. delrem Jan 2014 #2

ABSOLUTELY. Th1onein Jan 2014 #20

agreed. nt tomp Jan 2014 #32

Maher loses lots of credibility with his "nuts" statement drynberg Jan 2014 #3

Yawn...Snowden and Greenwald...two former Americans SoapBox Jan 2014 #5

Maher is generally entertaining, anyway. nt freshwest Jan 2014 #9

with whom exactly have they lost all cred? rpannier Jan 2014 #11

Apparently with the Nationalists. [n/t] Maedhros Jan 2014 #15

Oh maybe real Americans like for example.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #82

Greenwald is not a "former American." Hissyspit Jan 2014 #17

IMO Greenwald is a user brush Jan 2014 #28

Snowden and Greenwald are great American heroes. Madmiddle Jan 2014 #56

What about exposing our international covert operations? brush Jan 2014 #62

Revealing the International spying was needed fasttense Jan 2014 #87

Let me get this straight . . . brush Jan 2014 #88

could have been....but now they are not... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #84

Yep...he went a bridge too far.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #83

Must really chap your ass that neither of them are being waterboarded by Dick Cheney right now. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #18

I doubt they've lost any credibility, but our government has lost a lot. Th1onein Jan 2014 #21

with authoritarians yes. n/t wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #64

EXACTLY! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #81

Why does the content of Edward Snowden's character even matter? Shoulders of Giants Jan 2014 #7

Thank you! jjewell Jan 2014 #19

Bill! DeSwiss Jan 2014 #10

+ infinity CrawlingChaos Jan 2014 #25

Thank you, Bill Maher.. you are not the only Cha Jan 2014 #12

Sorry, Cha. Snowden is a HERO, whether you like it or not. Th1onein Jan 2014 #23

What about releasing info on our international intelligence gathering? brush Jan 2014 #29

Pretty much. Sky Masterson Jan 2014 #31

right. it damaged our relationship with germany... tomp Jan 2014 #34

And you think Germany isn't spying on us? brush Jan 2014 #38

i see you're simply locked into the status quo... tomp Jan 2014 #46

Call it brainwashing if you want brush Jan 2014 #50

you claim to be "aware" but... tomp Jan 2014 #72

How many times do I have to say this brush Jan 2014 #73

British and American intelligence traded information on Americans! Th1onein Jan 2014 #49

I'm not the one saying what Snowden did . . . brush Jan 2014 #51

Now you're not even making sense. Th1onein Jan 2014 #65

My post didn't even remotely say that brush Jan 2014 #68

Name one fact he exposed. ONE. Th1onein Jan 2014 #70

Are you thick? brush Jan 2014 #71

When these foreign intelligence agencies are part of the problem..... Th1onein Jan 2014 #48

It was not Snowden's decision to make . . . brush Jan 2014 #52

Name one, just one, whose cover he blew. One. Th1onein Jan 2014 #63

Snowden should have stuck with releasing info on domestic info gathering brush Jan 2014 #66

Yeah, I didn't think you could name one. Th1onein Jan 2014 #69

answer post 63 please? wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #67

Ya think that in all the terabytes of info . . . brush Jan 2014 #89

Oh, I've noticed that there are those who don't care wtf comes out Ed's mouth.. long hail Cha Jan 2014 #60

Stealing govt property...above and beyond anything required to whistleblow VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #85

Every decision? Like if we picked the red or the blue Siamese fighting fish? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #13

Well, Greenwald won that argument. Hissyspit Jan 2014 #16

Sure did. Thanks for pointing that out! Th1onein Jan 2014 #22

"Bill Maher and Glenn Greenwald clash over �totally batsh*t� Edward Snowden" Cha Jan 2014 #24

Greenwald was right here. Maher was being too literal. thesquanderer Jan 2014 #45

No, Maher is right.. "Everytime Snowden speaks.. he says something f*cking nuts". Cha Jan 2014 #58

If Maher is right, he picked poor examples (n/t) thesquanderer Jan 2014 #59

they were PERFECT examples! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #86

You think Snowden LITERALLY meant they the NSA could go back in time? thesquanderer Jan 2014 #92

So are we playing normal house rules here? Pholus Jan 2014 #26

Yeah, like Maher has never said anything chervilant Jan 2014 #27

And racist SaltyBro Jan 2014 #30

I wouldn't go that far brush Jan 2014 #33

So he is allowed to be racist since he donated to the President? SaltyBro Jan 2014 #36

Give us examples please. nt brush Jan 2014 #39

Look up Bill Maher-Wayne Brady feud SaltyBro Jan 2014 #40

I looked this up brush Jan 2014 #41

In addition to being a racist SaltyBro Jan 2014 #42

OK, you don't like Maher brush Jan 2014 #43

Bill Maher's constant over-the-top, pro-violence, off the scale, bigotry against Arabs and Muslims cpwm17 Jan 2014 #47

Examples please. brush Jan 2014 #75

He hates Islam, therefore he's "Bigoted against Arabs". arcane1 Jan 2014 #76

He hates Arabs cpwm17 Jan 2014 #90

Thank you for proving my point. arcane1 Jan 2014 #93

I guess you've never watched his show? cpwm17 Jan 2014 #77

I watch his show . . . brush Jan 2014 #78

You want examples? How much time have you got? CrawlingChaos Jan 2014 #79

Although I swilton Jan 2014 #74

come on Bill Snoopy 7 Jan 2014 #35

He's an entertainer first and foremost. Oakenshield Jan 2014 #44

I'm not sure that Stewart "roasts" RWers -- the majority of his guests are RWers KurtNYC Jan 2014 #91

Bill Maher usually gets things right, but when he's wrong he dives right in the deep end. 20score Jan 2014 #54

Greenwald said it best when he told Maher he was the one that sounded crazy. I agree with Madmiddle Jan 2014 #55

Says the guy that claims vaccines are bad. JoeyT Jan 2014 #61

I prefer Jon Stewart's take on the whole topic... adirondacker Jan 2014 #94