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Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
29. Let me see . . .
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 03:50 PM
Apr 2014

You are basing you assertion that Nacchio is crooked by citing a conviction engineered by the Bush Administration Justice Department that happened after he refused to allow the NSA to get information about his customers for nefarious purposes.

Remember, please, that the Bushies played hardball, didn't play fair and, for them, the Constitution was just a piece of paper -- as in toilet paper. This was a Justice Department that fired US Attorneys who did not pursue trumped up charges against Democrats and kept on those that did. It was that Justice Department that engineered the railroading of Don Siegelman. That's only the most high profile case of many.

I resent your characterization of "Firebaggers" hating CEOs indiscriminately "unless those CEOs are crooks." I suppose you think Pretty Boy Lloyd and Legs Dimon are upright, outstanding citizens. I suppose you think Dave and Charlie Koch are positive influences on American politics. When I talk about CEOs, I'm usually taking about the Wall Street Bankers who crashed the world economy, were bailed out by the taxpayers and haven't changed the way they do business or right wing billionaires who want to destroy American democracy. That covers a quite a few more people than the aforementioned, but they are giving all business people, even honest ones, a bad name. If we can bring capitalism back to a state where it is regulated to prevent capitalists from abusing to their employees, polluting the environment, defrauding their customers or buying the people's representatives in state or federal governments, then I'll be very happy. Our problem is simply that we do not have a functioning economic system of any kind. If you want to know what an unregulated free market looks like, ask the kid on the corner dealing dope or his customers about it.

Perhaps Nacchio really belongs in the slammer, but I wouldn't take the result of a case of a man who crossed the Bushies and was prosecuted by a Bush-appointed US Attorney who survived the Frat Boy's mid-term purge at face value. Anyone who would has no claim to being a member of any reality based community.

I wasn't aware of this.. thanks for bringing it to my attention. n/t 2banon Apr 2014 #1
I wasn't either. zeemike Apr 2014 #2
+1 2banon Apr 2014 #10
Interview: Thomas Drake, pre-Snowden NSA whistleblower cprise Apr 2014 #68
That's the way it works. PeoViejo Apr 2014 #3
I wish I could rec this a thousand times. I wish I were that sure that he was blameless Demeter Apr 2014 #4
K & R Mbrow Apr 2014 #5
Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #6
Don't break your arm congratulating your conformist / authoritarian self just 20score Apr 2014 #7
Firebagger/Naterite logic: Being against crooked CEOs = conformist/authoritarian ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2014 #12
I see, "Reality Based Community" is meant ironically. 20score Apr 2014 #15
So True hueymahl Apr 2014 #33
This. Jamaal510 Apr 2014 #21
I agree... reACTIONary Apr 2014 #24
Holy shit! Were you asleep during the Bush Administration? 20score Apr 2014 #28
Are you calling other DU posters, "Firebaggers and Naderites?" Is this whining? rhett o rick Apr 2014 #44
Nacchio's experience answers your question. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #49
Some people just don't believe it is wrong zeemike Apr 2014 #14
I believe it's wrong to break the law, as this asshat did... Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2014 #18
But not wrong for the government to break the law zeemike Apr 2014 #20
I was and still am very much against the warrantless wiretapping Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2014 #41
Time Magazine is to Truth in about the same proportion that truedelphi Apr 2014 #23
Let me see . . . Jack Rabbit Apr 2014 #29
Have you watched the interview by Bartolucci with Naccio? Post 13. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #37
Hi JD. I'm willing to give anyone a shot if the facts bear it out, but flat out, this doesn't do it ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2014 #39
In other words you side with George Bush. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #45
So why did the government claim that evidence should be excluded from the trial due to JDPriestly Apr 2014 #50
''Obama's NSA.'' DeSwiss Apr 2014 #8
Happened under Bush... Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2014 #9
Watch his interview with Maria Bartolucci (hope I got the name right) in Post # 13. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #38
You are in poor company. George Bush thinks he is a crook also. He didnt fool you too? nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #46
Talk about strawmen... Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2014 #54
This person is a crook who deserved prison for longer then he got nakocal Apr 2014 #11
Facts aren't welcome here when talking about the NSA... Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2014 #16
This occurred BEFORE the patriot act. zeemike Apr 2014 #17
Partriot Act was passed in 2002... Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2014 #19
It is not just his claim... zeemike Apr 2014 #22
So you are saying that you side with the Bush administration. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #47
On convicting this criminal? Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2014 #53
The government should have honored Nacchio's request and allowed him to JDPriestly Apr 2014 #51
His first conviction was overturned... Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2014 #55
"Orthodoxy means not thinking—not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness." George Orwell 20score Apr 2014 #26
+10, and... reACTIONary Apr 2014 #25
What massive corruption? And part of why he went to jail was for almost destroying a company? cui bono Apr 2014 #27
He was CEO of Qwest Communications... Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2014 #42
Insider trading is what Bush accused him of. You seem to be on the wrong side of history here. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #48
What the fuck is your hardon for this guy? Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2014 #56
What is yours? cui bono Apr 2014 #57
Qwest was NEVER a clean company... Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2014 #60
Disregarding your rudeness, I think he was set-up. rhett o rick Apr 2014 #61
Project much? Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2014 #64
It's just my opinion but I think you are in the wrong message board. rhett o rick Apr 2014 #65
Longtime Democrats don't belong on Democratic Underground? Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2014 #66
Maria Bartiromo did a lengthy interview with him last week. Very interesting. Link: 7962 Apr 2014 #13
Thank you for posting this. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #35
No, I didnt post it elsewhere; I didnt think about it till it was too late for "breaking news". 7962 Apr 2014 #40
K&R. We DUErs knew about this a number of years ago. I remember this case clearly. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #30
I was here then but I missed it. zeemike Apr 2014 #31
K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #32
I do remember this story as it happened. K&R. 20score Apr 2014 #34
"Before 911." This post should have hundreds of recommendations. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #36
The PNAC crowd just had to wait a couple months for their catalyzing event. /nt jakeXT Apr 2014 #58
That 2000 "election" was a coup. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #59
I agree that there has been a "coup". I believe those that took control still have control. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #62
That's two of us. There are many more. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #63
He told them to piss off. They had to make an example of him. GoneFishin Apr 2014 #43
I knew about him Warpy Apr 2014 #52
K&R cprise Apr 2014 #67
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