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JDPriestly

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13. Jefferson died a bankrupt.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 12:10 AM
Apr 2014

Jefferson has a mixed history on slavery. In my opinion, he knew it was wrong but was caught in the culture of his time, essentially conforming to the status quo. I must point out that other slave owners freed their slaves and in the North in particular many people abhorred slavery already in the late 18th century.

Thomas Jefferson and bankruptcy.

1. Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809)
Despite an ostentatious lifestyle – or perhaps because of it – Jefferson owed money to various creditors throughout his life. He inherited debt from his father-in-law as a result of unusual estate planning and was a creditor to many unreliable debtors. His main source of income, Monticello, proved inadequate to cover his debts. Poor management of his estate and price fluctuations of commodities cost Jefferson dearly. Towards the end of his life, he was so severely in debt that he petitioned the state of Virginia to auction off his land; the state refused. After he died, his estate was was auctioned off, and his surviving daughter was forced to rely on charity.

(AP Photo/File)

http://xfinity.comcast.net/slideshow/finance-poorestpresidents/thomas-jefferson/


Madison had to sell part of his property because he could not pay his and his son's debts.

2. James Madison (1809-1817)
At his Montpelier plantation, Madison suffered similar difficulties to Jefferson. While his various agriculture businesses were occasionally profitable, in the end they lost him money. His stepson, a gambler, racked up debts. Madison absorbed these obligations and was forced to sell half of Montpelier to pay them off. Although he may have wanted to free his slaves, his financial troubles prevented him from doing so, and he was forced to sell some of them to pay off debts. Some historians suggest that he had his memoirs published posthumously in order to better provide for his family.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/slideshow/finance-poorestpresidents/james-madison%20/

Washington was truly wealthy as you point out, thanks in part to the wealthy widower he married.

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K&R n/t handmade34 Apr 2014 #1
Excellent segment... ljm2002 Apr 2014 #2
Becoming? East India Company? John Hancock. merrily Apr 2014 #3
Jefferson died a bankrupt. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #13
None of that alters the fact that the US is not just recently becoming an oligarchy, does it? merrily Apr 2014 #19
People came here, worked for some time and were more easily able to buy property than we can JDPriestly Apr 2014 #20
Interesting again, but again, does not refute my original post. merrily Apr 2014 #21
How do you define oligarchy? JDPriestly Apr 2014 #23
Candidly, merrily Apr 2014 #25
The US veered toward oligarchy in the Gilded Age and during the 19th century to the 20th century JDPriestly Apr 2014 #31
P.S. As to Madison, read the once secret notes of the merrily Apr 2014 #22
But after the American Revolution, the original oligarchy, those who did not support the JDPriestly Apr 2014 #24
"the House was from the beginning intended to represent the people and be very close to the people." merrily Apr 2014 #26
+1 lunasun Apr 2014 #28
Let's take Alexander Hamilton. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #29
As an oligarch, would you be thinking of Robert Morris? JDPriestly Apr 2014 #30
As I previously stated, the life stories of individuals do not determine if merrily Apr 2014 #33
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #4
Excellent post.. blue14u Apr 2014 #5
I like the fact that Krugman says we shouldn't give up......unlike many here! LongTomH Apr 2014 #6
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The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Own And Control The Politicians That Own And Control Us cantbeserious Apr 2014 #7
Most of the politicians who own and control us are themselves oligarchs. merrily Apr 2014 #8
All Too True cantbeserious Apr 2014 #9
The people whom we elect have a lot more choices than we do. merrily Apr 2014 #10
Will Enough Non Rich People Wise Up? colsohlibgal Apr 2014 #12
Or actually outright serve on the board of Wal-Mart? merrily Apr 2014 #27
May the better angels be. K&R think Apr 2014 #14
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