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JDPriestly

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30. As an oligarch, would you be thinking of Robert Morris?
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 01:21 AM
Apr 2014

Robert Morris, Sr. (/ˈmɒrɨs/ (January 20, 1734 – May 8, 1806) was a Liverpool-born American merchant who financed the American Revolution and was signatory to the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, and the United States Constitution. He was elected to the Pennsylvania Assembly, became the Chairman of the Pennsylvania Committee of Safety, and was chosen as a delegate to the Second Continental Congress, where he served as chairman of the "Secret Committee of Trade" and as a member of the Committee of Correspondence.

From 1781 to 1784, he served as the powerful Superintendent of Finance, managing the economy of the fledgling United States. As the central civilian in the government, Morris was, next to General George Washington, "the most powerful man in America."[1] His successful administration led to the sobriquet, "Financier of the Revolution." At the same time he was Agent of Marine, a position he took without pay, and from which he controlled the Continental Navy.

He was one of Pennsylvania's original pair of US senators, serving from 1789 to 1795. He invested a considerable portion of his fortune in land shortly before the Panic of 1796–1797, which led to his bankruptcy in 1798, and he spent several months in debtors' prison, until Congress passed a bankruptcy act to release him. After he left prison in 1801 he lived a quiet, private life in a modest home in Philadelphia, until 1806 when he died.

Again, he was middle class -- a businessman. In a letter to John Adams dated July 9, 1786, Jefferson said that Morris had cornered the tobacco market. Certainly a rich man for a time, but again his wealth was not great enough or entrenched enough to save him from bankruptcy in the end. He is probably as close to an oligarch as you get, but does not make it.

The age of the great moguls and the making of the great American fortunes took place during but mostly after the American Revolution.

The other person who might be considered an oligarch is John Jay.

But there was far more balance among middle-class working people like Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson and wealthy businessmen than there is today. And the wealthy businessmen of the early US post-revolutionary period would not be considered that secure in their wealth by today's standards. There were no Rockefellers. Vanderbilt wasn't born yet. We just did not have the wealthy families with a century of political pull who could join with relative newcomers to run things, not like we have today.

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K&R n/t handmade34 Apr 2014 #1
Excellent segment... ljm2002 Apr 2014 #2
Becoming? East India Company? John Hancock. merrily Apr 2014 #3
Jefferson died a bankrupt. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #13
None of that alters the fact that the US is not just recently becoming an oligarchy, does it? merrily Apr 2014 #19
People came here, worked for some time and were more easily able to buy property than we can JDPriestly Apr 2014 #20
Interesting again, but again, does not refute my original post. merrily Apr 2014 #21
How do you define oligarchy? JDPriestly Apr 2014 #23
Candidly, merrily Apr 2014 #25
The US veered toward oligarchy in the Gilded Age and during the 19th century to the 20th century JDPriestly Apr 2014 #31
P.S. As to Madison, read the once secret notes of the merrily Apr 2014 #22
But after the American Revolution, the original oligarchy, those who did not support the JDPriestly Apr 2014 #24
"the House was from the beginning intended to represent the people and be very close to the people." merrily Apr 2014 #26
+1 lunasun Apr 2014 #28
Let's take Alexander Hamilton. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #29
As an oligarch, would you be thinking of Robert Morris? JDPriestly Apr 2014 #30
As I previously stated, the life stories of individuals do not determine if merrily Apr 2014 #33
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #4
Excellent post.. blue14u Apr 2014 #5
I like the fact that Krugman says we shouldn't give up......unlike many here! LongTomH Apr 2014 #6
Fight on! sorechasm Apr 2014 #11
The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Own And Control The Politicians That Own And Control Us cantbeserious Apr 2014 #7
Most of the politicians who own and control us are themselves oligarchs. merrily Apr 2014 #8
All Too True cantbeserious Apr 2014 #9
The people whom we elect have a lot more choices than we do. merrily Apr 2014 #10
Will Enough Non Rich People Wise Up? colsohlibgal Apr 2014 #12
Or actually outright serve on the board of Wal-Mart? merrily Apr 2014 #27
May the better angels be. K&R think Apr 2014 #14
Before anything changes in this country will we throw Enthusiast Apr 2014 #15
Third Way = Wealth Disparity Perpetuation Machine. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #16
Try Jeb and Condosleeza swilton Apr 2014 #17
I thought exactly the same thing. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #18
Was just going to post this. nt bananas Apr 2014 #32
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