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JDPriestly

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45. It is unlikely that they took his clothes before this picture

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 12:45 PM

Mar 2012

was taken. How would they have gotten new clothes for him if he had changed them at the scene of the crime? Surely they did not drive him by his house so that he could change his clothes before taking him in for questioning? That in and of itself would create suspicion about the conduct of the police.

When they arrested the occupiers around the country, they did not let them change their clothes before going to jail. This guy killed someone, but he may have spent less time in jail than some of the occupiers.

Something was terribly wrong. The Florida law is just insane.

In some states, a person who kills something because they make a mistake when driving might easily spend more time in jail than this guy who was following an innocent kid who was trying to get to his father's girlfriend's house.

Even if Zimmerman eventually gets off because he is able to persuade a jury that he was acting in self-defense, the police's handling of the investigation is so flawed as to deprive Trayvon, regardless of his race, of his basic human dignity. We just do not do things that way in this country.

I'm shocked that conservatives suddenly have so little sympathy for a victim of gun violence. If Trayvon had been shot in LA by a gang member protecting his turf from an innocent person he perceived to be an intruder, the investigation would have been more thorough.

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Pic Of The Moment: The Case Of The Amazing Disappearing Evidence [View all] EarlG Mar 2012 OP

Case closed. trumad Mar 2012 #1

The Police CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #4

The State Attorney is saying she may not need a Grand Jury to proceed. trumad Mar 2012 #8

Not me. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #19

I don't understand police procedure.. So this is probably a really stupid question.. nenagh Mar 2012 #38

It was CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #43

Actually, it was released by the police, according to the reporter who obtained it. DirkGently Mar 2012 #47

Uh Huh. OK. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #53

No, the reporter who HAS the video said that. He lied? DirkGently Mar 2012 #158

Dunno He seems to have couched his answer. Did not tell Judge O'Donnell who he asked. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #164

Fair enough. Who knows? Nothing about this case makes sense so far. DirkGently Mar 2012 #169

TX. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #173

Watch and learn. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #57

Interesting observations ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #88

Video shows head wound. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #150

I see no head wound whatsoever. Good try, no sale. yardwork Mar 2012 #152

Take a close look at CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #161

If he has a wound on his head, the police should have a photograph of it, or any crunch60 Apr 2012 #227

at 56-58 seconds into video when he is much closer to camera with back of head to camera. I couldn't Bill USA Mar 2012 #156

He pauses at the Black line for just a second. That is when you can see it. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #162

I think that is the shape of his head Quixote1818 Mar 2012 #181

Could be. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #184

I'm not sure he was wearing the jacket at the time of the shooting ThomThom Apr 2012 #229

Daily Caller is a RW propaganda site suffragette Mar 2012 #185

Yes it is they promote the RW line. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #187

I think it's inappropriate to post anything from The Daily Caller as "evidence" on DU suffragette Mar 2012 #188

On the video CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #195

If you already realize the Daily Caller is a RW rag and is "self explanatory slanted" suffragette Mar 2012 #201

Ahh, yes--Phucker Carlson, of the dinky bow ties and insufferable attitude! nt MADem Mar 2012 #211

Exactly. Looks like they are running a full-tilt propaganda campaign suffragette Mar 2012 #214

Great article, thanks for putting it up. Adds to the narrative. Way more credible than the Caller MADem Mar 2012 #215

Uh huh. The reporter's lying for no reason? DirkGently Mar 2012 #163

That and the way it tries to follow him out of the frame led me to the same conclusion Warpy Mar 2012 #177

I did not know about the Smart Phone. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #182

It Looks Like Somebody Inside The Police Department DallasNE Mar 2012 #67

Holistic detectives shouldn't ignore their observations. Callisto32 Mar 2012 #74

Holistically speaking, the video came from the cops, period. DirkGently Mar 2012 #160

Nw I just saw the real on with the PD log on it on CNN. But they cut the part with the head wound. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #176

You don't know if there was a Head wound. Did you see pictures taken by the police crunch60 Apr 2012 #228

everything should have been photographed at the scene ThomThom Apr 2012 #230

Transparency, maybe? The taxpayers of Florida paid for that surveillance video. The police are MADem Mar 2012 #52

"The Police took Zimmerman's clothes for evidence" alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #12

I'm inclined to think so--not a drop of blood anywhere librechik Mar 2012 #32

The witnesses said that Zimmerman was wearing a red jacket Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #42

OMG I was totally joking alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #60

Somebody on this thread claimed it happened librechik Mar 2012 #71

Yes, somebody who was making it up alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #73

I don't know if you've ever watched CSI or the like, librechik Mar 2012 #78

Yeesh alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #82

and you keep jumping to conclusions before we have all the evidence librechik Mar 2012 #97

What conclusion alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #102

That's TV drama entertainment. FarPoint Mar 2012 #95

then what happened to the bloody shirt one officer alleges he saw? librechik Mar 2012 #99

I can tell you what happened to it... Javaman Mar 2012 #125

I like how this possibility never dawns on our friend alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #140

He had to of been looking at Trayvon then.. FarPoint Mar 2012 #159

Not if he shot him from further away Fawke Em Mar 2012 #118

But that would conflict with the precious police report alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #141

Well, the SPD has been quite strange. BlueToTheBone Mar 2012 #221

and found replacement perfect fit clothes ???..and scars ??..x-ray of "broken nose"?? Swagman Mar 2012 #39

Of course! Cops always have a change of clothese ready for Dudes Who Shoot Black Kids alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #61

Of course. Those are clothes the police provided. TahitiNut Mar 2012 #87

Hey, maybe the cool cop who lent him the jacket alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #89

On the other hand, maybe he was looking for the Skittles George scored? TahitiNut Mar 2012 #147

Be fair. A man who can heal a head wound in minutes could whisk a weapon through thin air! yardwork Mar 2012 #153

Oh.. yeah.. I forgot. Salamander genes. TahitiNut Mar 2012 #175

Anyone know the exact time and day of this video? The Wielding Truth Mar 2012 #79

It's 30 minutes after the killing. nt Quixote1818 Mar 2012 #183

Thanks. Wow. Zimmerman is in good shape for 30 min. after murder. The Wielding Truth Mar 2012 #191

"The truth will out" is exactly right - TBF Mar 2012 #14

It is unlikely that they took his clothes before this picture JDPriestly Mar 2012 #45

The Police can take his clothes as evidence and they did. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #50

His name is Trayvon. JTFrog Mar 2012 #54

To be fair, Zimmerman is a standard spelling of a name most people have heard. Callisto32 Mar 2012 #77

this story didn't just break yesterday--it's been the headline everywhere for 3 weeks now SemperEadem Mar 2012 #143

Google it for chrissake! No excuse. lib_wit_it Mar 2012 #204

Take a deep breath and try to apply some critical thinking? MADem Mar 2012 #56

Just curious: how do you know the Police took the evidence and sealed it in an evidence bag? Pachamama Mar 2012 #59

CAPHAVOC doesn't know shit about it: he's just making it up alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #65

Suspected so much....just wanted the Floriduh resident to explain his certainity of facts. Pachamama Mar 2012 #69

I do not claim to have the true facts. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #81

Facts, are, by their nature, true. If they aren't true, they aren't facts. They are lies. nt MADem Mar 2012 #103

True! Speculation. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #111

Speculations aren't facts, though. They're just guesses--sometimes educated, other times, halfassed. MADem Mar 2012 #119

But CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #122

You were the person making reference upthread to "true facts," if you recall. nt MADem Mar 2012 #168

OK CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #171

Oh, now you admit that. You previously presented your speculation as fact. You are untrustworthy. lib_wit_it Mar 2012 #206

I love you FarPoint Mar 2012 #112

Speculating CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #68

The new State Attorney said they had Zimmerman's clothes from that night ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #98

OK CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #133

IF you recall correctly. IF. Have any evidence of that? Link please. lib_wit_it Mar 2012 #207

IIRC the claim was made during Nancy Grace interview ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #218

And the cops had a change of clothing ready at the scene? sarge43 Mar 2012 #124

The video shows an officer touching Zimmerman's jacket in a very weak casual crunch60 Mar 2012 #64

It's also quite obviously NOT a change of clothes if the officer is searching it alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #66

The way they all stroll into the station is curious, too. They're chatting, and no one MADem Mar 2012 #113

� reinforcing the theory that Zimmerman is a "CI" FraDon Mar 2012 #135

That's a very plausible theory. I never saw such a casual 'perp walk' in my life. nt MADem Mar 2012 #154

Yes. GZ takes his own path up to the sidewalk near the wall and the one cop who was still behind him lib_wit_it Mar 2012 #209

He's out of the car, standing around, before they even bring down the garage door. MADem Mar 2012 #210

IF and that is a huge if the police took the clothes intaglio Mar 2012 #70

Speculating on my part CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #76

Scientific protocol in evidence collection would say that is an untruth intaglio Mar 2012 #132

Maybe so CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #138

And since when do District Attorneys work on a Sunday? johnlucas Mar 2012 #166

I can believe that bloody clothes would be taken and put into a sealed evidence bag magical thyme Mar 2012 #80

I would assume they took them later on. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #84

which brings us back to the original point magical thyme Mar 2012 #93

Good points CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #107

I think the backspatter of blood from a bullet wound magical thyme Mar 2012 #123

Zimmerman's statements other than admissions are worthless. Self-serving hearsay. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #131

His Fathers? CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #134

No, he was a magistrate Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #165

What are a Virginia magistrate's duties? n/t sarge43 Mar 2012 #167

I would need to find the GD thread where this was discussed Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #180

Thank you sarge43 Mar 2012 #217

Hey Sarge Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #223

Thanks again Ruby. Most helpful. n/t sarge43 Mar 2012 #224

OK TX CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #174

'Zactly. Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #178

Of course he knows what he is doing--getting his spoiled brat of an amoral sociopathic son-- eridani Mar 2012 #202

You got that right peace frog Mar 2012 #216

George Zimmerman would have to testify at trial. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #225

Not sure but I think CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #226

Zimmerman's clothes are worthless now as evidence catbyte Mar 2012 #63

First aid? If his nose is broken wouldn't there at least be a bandage? Also on the 'wound' ... Beaverhausen Mar 2012 #114

Dunno CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #116

I got my nose broken. Javaman Mar 2012 #128

Me too. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #139

You present this as fact. Link please. lib_wit_it Mar 2012 #205

Not "closed" so much as "upgraded to murder in the second degree." TheWraith Mar 2012 #28

excellent point about the gloves n/t librechik Mar 2012 #33

Where are the photos of Zimmermans injuries? Police should have taken crunch60 Mar 2012 #55

There is a mountain of stuff the State Attorney is sitting on. ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #104

Amazing! nt gateley Mar 2012 #2

There are actually people here trying to spin this alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #3

Simple laws of physics. Pab Sungenis Mar 2012 #9

More over... Javaman Mar 2012 #130

Don't forget, "Maybe the police let Zimmerman go home and shower and change clothes first." yardwork Mar 2012 #10

Changed clothes alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #13

Because everybody who kills somebody is allowed to do that before being taken to the station. yardwork Mar 2012 #16

yes..and destroy evidence....cop's heads must roll Swagman Mar 2012 #41

and they are searching him in the station..the story gets worse by the minute Swagman Mar 2012 #44

According to ABC this morning safeinOhio Mar 2012 #48

Thanks for that! 30 minutes, hardly enough time SamG Mar 2012 #91

Ahhh, a quick change artist, then! Yeaaahh, that's the ticket!! MADem Mar 2012 #106

Confirmed by the time stamp on the video, too. yardwork Mar 2012 #151

Of course. Pab Sungenis Mar 2012 #148

Changed his clothes HangOnKids Mar 2012 #17

here? Wow.... BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2012 #30

If his nose was treated at the scene, wouldn't he have a bandage or JDPriestly Mar 2012 #46

Punched in the nose over and over is claimed...yet no black eyes? blm Mar 2012 #75

Punched in the nose, nose broken and bloody, and SamG Mar 2012 #96

Man of steel AND teflon--to be able to slough off those grass stains so easily! nt MADem Mar 2012 #109

Robert Zimmerman, of course, was not there. Jim__ Mar 2012 #5

A twofer skamaria Mar 2012 #199

Gash on Head? earthside Mar 2012 #6

Again---where is the blood. trumad Mar 2012 #7

And where are the latex gloves? - even a hint of blood requires the wearing of gloves. AnotherMother4Peace Mar 2012 #15

Well, wouldn't that be for the EMT's? If they cleared him at the scene beforehand, no gloves, right? freshwest Mar 2012 #36

I work in education & we are required to put on gloves at any sign of blood: abrasions, bloody nose, AnotherMother4Peace Mar 2012 #51

I'm just thinking that they didn't need to have them, if EMT's were on the scene first. Naturally, freshwest Mar 2012 #58

if he had freshly cleaned wounds magical thyme Mar 2012 #83

I don't believe he had any wounds. I'm just commenting on the wearing of gloves. freshwest Mar 2012 #90

I wasn't clear enough magical thyme Mar 2012 #126

Simple. Pab Sungenis Mar 2012 #34

Was thinking the same - did they stop at the 1 hour dry cleaner? Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #115

And for the size of the so called "gash" mazzarro Mar 2012 #18

His deddy said he shoulda gotten STITCHES, the wound was so darn bad! MADem Mar 2012 #117

they're still reeling from the death of their favorite video manipulator ... zbdent Mar 2012 #21

LOL HooptieWagon Mar 2012 #37

Wouldn't he have had a hate-filled field day with this sad situation...nt MADem Mar 2012 #213

You would think that mbuch64 Mar 2012 #23

What is it with these people on the right that they are so invested in? lunasun Mar 2012 #25

Digital Edge Enhancement of his skull bone structure They_Live Mar 2012 #27

Tucker Carlson, I would have thought HE would... SamG Mar 2012 #100

Gun worship. lib_wit_it Mar 2012 #208

I said.... I knew they would use this fascisthunter Mar 2012 #219

Please note also, that Mr. Zimmerman is walking steadily in this video! LongTomH Mar 2012 #11

That may be a different George Zimmerman tclambert Mar 2012 #22

The man should be arrested for murder 1 Botany Mar 2012 #20

I'm guessing if GZ has a broken nose intheflow Mar 2012 #24

Good one! SamG Mar 2012 #101

The officer DOES seem to examine the back of his head... hexola Mar 2012 #26

Could have been sweat he wiped off...... Pachamama Mar 2012 #62

Zimmerman Dad . retired JUDGE! Why Syzygy Mar 2012 #29

so we know one thing for sure. Robert Zimmerman is a LIAR librechik Mar 2012 #31

Isn't the master footage likely to be of higher resolution? hexola Mar 2012 #35

Anybody remember the "B" girl? BumRushDaShow Mar 2012 #40

Thanks for that timely reminder. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2012 #85

No, I don't remember her. Can you explain? (nt) PotatoChip Mar 2012 #94

A right wing nutter in 2008 claimed she was attacked by SamG Mar 2012 #108

Thank you for that. And the link. PotatoChip Mar 2012 #127

RW lunatic Why Syzygy Mar 2012 #110

Thank you. (nt) PotatoChip Mar 2012 #129

Once Zimmerman is brought in zentrum Mar 2012 #49

PLEASE put up on Facebook so it can spread blm Mar 2012 #72

Amazing Pics Ear G... icnorth Mar 2012 #86

Mr. Martin was actually holding him upside down trying to shake change from his pockets alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #92

There are so many wrongs in this case. perimedik Mar 2012 #105

Credibility of Zimmerman's story AnnieK401 Mar 2012 #120

Not 4 hours. The video is purported to be less than an hour later. HooptieWagon Mar 2012 #137

Try 35 minutes after the incident alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #142

So, the cops had a change of clothes for him, got him changed, cleaned up sarge43 Mar 2012 #144

You are right AnnieK401 Apr 2012 #232

"the wound was already healing." Javaman Mar 2012 #121

I guess you heal really fast when... Hubert Flottz Mar 2012 #136

A simple question NuclearTeabag Mar 2012 #145

Because there's no evidence supporting Zimmerman's claims n/t sarge43 Mar 2012 #146

My nose has been broken twice... Big Orange Jeff Mar 2012 #149

Is that video getting fuzzier? Marthe48 Mar 2012 #155

There is even a lack of anything humbled_opinion Mar 2012 #157

Zimmerman is as guilty as sin workinclasszero Mar 2012 #170

This is the "SOUTH" and Seminole County is well..... MsFlorida Mar 2012 #172

Father was a judge in Virginia, not Florida. intheflow Mar 2012 #186

There *IS* a mark when you see it with STOCK Abc footage karnac Mar 2012 #179

Good find CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #189

the first is good, the daily caller pics are deceptive. karnac Mar 2012 #194

TX. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #196

Hey I looked at your work again CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #198

you talking about the faint black line in my *enhanced* picture? karnac Mar 2012 #200

Fake ass Daily Caller enhancement alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #190

So it is not a cut? CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #192

Whatever alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #193

Suit Yourself. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #197

That's the TOP of the guy's head--come off it, what bullshit. MADem Mar 2012 #212

For someone with a supposed head injury and being so banged up Smilo Mar 2012 #203

I knew the right wing would take a clip of the video to foster credibility fascisthunter Mar 2012 #220

I saw this video yesterday on 3 news programs. Where's the blood? Where's the broken nose? Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #222

obvious rehearsed police performance or proof of head trauma sonof Apr 2012 #231

Hahahahahaha. Oh man, you are good. You had me going until the girl scout camp comparison uppityperson Apr 2012 #233