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zeemike

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48. Well I don't rely on people's opinion.

Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:44 AM

Jun 2014

Nor do I divide them up into people you can listen too and people you can not hear.
But I guess saying that makes me one of them because you are ether with us or against us.

Some people want it to be that way...if Ron Paul were to say he is for something then we would have to be against it...and likewise here if one of "them" says something about the false narrative of the Neo Cons we must believe it is true...because every one of "them" must be wrong on everything they say.

Frankly it is the same thing that the right wing does to it's followers, and in this case I don't think we should be like them at all...I think we should be different than them, and consider every point made on it's own merits, not on who is saying it or what they said on something else.

But that is just me...I see the left and right becoming more alike than different in this respect...and I find it disturbing, and can see no good coming from it.

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CIA Agent Exposes How Al-Qaeda Dosen't Exist [View all] zeemike Jun 2014 OP

Remember when we called them Al-Cia'da(sp), here on DU? We've known it was horse crap since Mnemosyne Jun 2014 #1

This Thread is BS dvduval Jun 2014 #4

the only way is that we do an "alert" on every RT video and make our case that uhnope Jun 2014 #24

Please list your specific complaints about this interview BlueStreak Jun 2014 #28

"ex-CIA agent" is RON PAUL supporter uhnope Jun 2014 #37

No, it is not "nuff said". List your objections BlueStreak Jun 2014 #50

Three strikes... Archae Jun 2014 #2

Not she but he...Michael F. Scheuer zeemike Jun 2014 #3

I think you called that correctly malokvale77 Jun 2014 #8

Lol, so much for 'informed comment' on RT. One of the better International news sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #26

RT wasn't making any commentary BlueStreak Jun 2014 #29

They are very fair in their interviews and generally very professional. It's a shame to see the sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #31

From sourcewatch - a progressive / liberal wikipedia newthinking Jun 2014 #6

And in fact, the opposition to American interests in the region continues BlueStreak Jun 2014 #30

"Israeli lobby" is dog whistle Kremlinspeak for their usual anti-Semiticism uhnope Jun 2014 #5

Right, back in 1903 before the revolution. zeemike Jun 2014 #9

The real FACT... dvduval Jun 2014 #10

You mean like the US MSM? zeemike Jun 2014 #12

Both sides??? rpannier Jun 2014 #17

I've been watching RT for more than two years, and have seen professional news reporting sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #32

I too have watched RT on many occassions rpannier Jun 2014 #39

here's some wonderful RT BS uhnope Jun 2014 #57

Actually, I have been researching and posting on this topic quite a bit and newthinking Jun 2014 #14

"there is no need to link to RT" ????? Then STOP uhnope Jun 2014 #21

I always want to do the opposite of what an authoritarian tries to push me to do newthinking Jun 2014 #40

Thank you for the OP, I have found RT to be right more often than wrong on many issues. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #33

That was the point ; I just did not say it well. newthinking Jun 2014 #41

You mean like the Corporate Propaganda machine? Rt has excellent reporters, news from all over the sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #27

Let me see.... 5X Jun 2014 #7

depends on who the analyst is and what biases they bring to the table rpannier Jun 2014 #18

because that same CIA analyst says Al Qaeda DOES exist here uhnope Jun 2014 #22

Actually the analyst in your link says the west's understanding of Al Queda is incorrect. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #35

Whaaaat? Do you understand the difference between uhnope Jun 2014 #38

Yawn.... newthinking Jun 2014 #43

Yes! Fluoridation Conspiracy Theory! Your credibility is shredding so tell us more uhnope Jun 2014 #58

Seems we are having to re-cover old news. newthinking Jun 2014 #42

Al Qaeda means The Toilet Politicalboi Jun 2014 #11

But you must admit it was a brilliant monster. zeemike Jun 2014 #13

And with a seemingly unlimited supply of second-in-command's n/t RufusTFirefly Jun 2014 #16

I can't remember how many #2 guys we killed over the years. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #36

Israel and the SAUDIS are the ones dragging us into war. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #15

That is probably true. zeemike Jun 2014 #20

yeah right. The Taliban don't exist. ISIS did not just sweep into Iraq uhnope Jun 2014 #23

Actually, it's al Qaeda as described by the Bush Administration that doesn't and never did exist.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #45

+1 kristopher Jun 2014 #49

thanks for posting, zeemike. Too bad that some truth2power Jun 2014 #19

"ex-CIA agent" is RON PAUL supporter uhnope Jun 2014 #25

Problem is that isn't what he has said in the past.... Historic NY Jun 2014 #34

Kremlin TV and his useful idiot conspiracist. fireflysky46 Jun 2014 #44

I think it was an interesting piece. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #46

Michael Scheuer is REALLY not a suitable person for progressives to quote LeftishBrit Jun 2014 #47

Well I don't rely on people's opinion. zeemike Jun 2014 #48

I just don't see a point in quoting haters. LeftishBrit Jun 2014 #51

And I don't see any point in slapping a label on people to dismiss what they say. zeemike Jun 2014 #52

and you don't draw the line anywhere? You take Alex Jones seriously? Breitbart? uhnope Jun 2014 #55

Well there is a difference between taking them seriously zeemike Jun 2014 #61

I am not 'condemning everyone who ever spoke to them'; I am condemning Scheuer himself! LeftishBrit Jun 2014 #65

No, you are taking this "analyst" at face value when the less gullible or the less corrupt uhnope Jun 2014 #67

Are you supporting our interventionalist foreign policies? It's not clear whether or not you sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #53

do you support Putin's interventionalist foreign policies? And his private FOX TV of RT? uhnope Jun 2014 #59

Well, since you decided to speak for me, using that old internet mind reading device we are all so sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #60

"Rt's bias is more to the left" NNNNG wrong. try again uhnope Jun 2014 #62

Lol, well to my knowledge, Thom Hartmann, Pepe Escobar, among others, are not 'disguising' anything. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #73

Thank you Sabrina. zeemike Jun 2014 #69

No. I'm most certainly not! LeftishBrit Jun 2014 #64

Well, the Left sure supported him throughout the Bush years. Any idea why? Could it be he had sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #74

The Left supported Michael Scheuer? LeftishBrit Jun 2014 #76

Yes, he was lauded for speaking out against the Bush administration on the left. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #79

And yet, Michael Scheuer was quoted quite 'liberally' even here on DU during the Bush years. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #54

GREAT post. RT is trotting out a RW nutter and the gullible think it's "progressive" uhnope Jun 2014 #66

Can you explain why the Left supported Scheurer throughout the Bush admins? sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #75

Seriously - who on the Left supported him during the Bush era? LeftishBrit Jun 2014 #78

To start with, do a search on DU on Scheurer. We have become accustomed to seeing those sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #85

They may have changed for some, but not for me LeftishBrit Jun 2014 #88

Misspelling in the subject, "doesn't". Respectfully: Is English your second language and is Russian uhnope Jun 2014 #56

The title was the same as the You Tube title. zeemike Jun 2014 #63

just curious. Some of the RT defenders and pro-Putin crowd might be sock puppets uhnope Jun 2014 #68

And some of the anti crowd could be sock puppets too. zeemike Jun 2014 #70

ahhh. paid posters sent by the MIC? please develop this conspiracy theory a little more for us uhnope Jun 2014 #71

Well you started it. zeemike Jun 2014 #72

Mercy malokvale77 Jun 2014 #80

I am retired and have nothing better to do with my time. zeemike Jun 2014 #82

Dang malokvale77 Jun 2014 #83

I think this goes way beyond RT to be honest. LeftishBrit Jun 2014 #77

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #81

RT puts people on who are not puppets, mostly Liberals actually. Are you suggesting that people sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #84

Were you around on DU during the Bush era? Scheurer spoke out against Bush policies and was, airc, sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #86

I have been on DU since 2004. I have been opposed to the war since it started! LeftishBrit Jun 2014 #87