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In reply to the discussion: Papantonio: Conservative Media Creating Psychopaths [View all]Diclotican
(5,095 posts)freshwest
Many and scary things indeed - that have came to some fruition - as the neo-conservatives - the libertarians - and not to say the tea-party's really seen to have grasped most of the public airwaves - and poisoned most of the community to a degree I have yet to understand... I'm maybe naive - as I do believe, and hope that enough people in the US is able to do the impossible - look true the poison they are served - and to do the right thing - who is to fight back - take back the public airwaves - and to crush the evil who is in your midst - the world The Koch Brothers - and the extreme right wingers would love to have - is a country - and a world where a few masters is to rule as they see fit - as they did back in the middle ages... where barons, and their knights could rule with impunity - and where everyone who was not part of the elite - or had solid backing from the elite in one way or another was in danger of being plundered - or murdered as the elite was seeing it to be the best way to "sort out trouble"...
To repeal social security - ending medicare - ACA to destroy all the public fabric who have glued the US to what it have become - a great nations who the rest of the world - at least until Jr got into office in fact admired - and loved and cared for... Most people was terrified about what happened 11 sept 2001 - most people was saddened about what happened that day - and then it looked like the US got off the rail they had been on - and collective got into a frenzy of anger and being afraid - and it doesn't stooped for the next 8 year to be honest.... And then a black man was elected president - something that really got the conservatives angry - and well the rest is history as they says - the conservative movement have been containing to be more and more and more extreme - even to the brink of open revolt against a lawfully elected president... I have never seen anything like this - if it had been in most european nations - the army would have been in full blow to crush it - as the experiences from the years between WW1 and WW2 still is deadly serious known in most of the continent - at least the Western part of Europe - would have sent in the army to crush anything like this long before it have been like it is today... As the extremist really is about - is treating to do a revolution against a lawfully elected president... President Barack H Obama si lawfully elected as the President - even if the extremist of the right still is seeing him as a unlawfully elected president - and they HATE him because he was not just elected once - but twice and is still seen as better than the pressor Bush jr - who was a terrible President - and who ruined the country more than even the worst enemies of the country would be able to dream about....
Norway did have some problems with our public pensions founds some time back - as some of the invest our "smart" economical masters ended up to be not that smart as the stock tanked greatly - and in a few hours we lost a lot of money who was ours on paper... But for some reasons it was rising again - and for the most part our pension founds is on track - and fulled up with a lot of money - even though in the new climate the conservatives have made possible - they claim it to be a danger of ending rather unfriendly - as they claim to many is on one form or another of public economical help... Specially if the conservatives plan of cutting in the tax base will go true the parliament - it could end in some cutback in our public founded pension plans - not to say in our rather well founded welfare systems... Hopefully the conservatives is not able to do to much damage the next 3 years - My guess is that the conservatives would not survive to the next election - and in the tradition of a parliamentarian system - the largest opposition party have to make a new government - and that is the labor party (AP).... And to be honest - i trust our labour party more then our conservatives when it comes to economical responsiblities.... Specially as our Conservatives - have the Progress Party as member of the government... It scare the hell out of me - thinking about how much damage the progress party can do in government - and how long it will take to mind the worst damage - and to rebuild the community after that train wreck
If Norway was to end our rather well founded welfare system - I think the old "enemy" called radicalism would do a comeback - as it was one of the most important reasons Norway was building the public well fare system - the fear of an violent revolution against the power to be - and it was a bloody serious case in the years between the wars - about the possibility of a revolution from the left - all until april 9th 1940 it was a danger no conservative could be without the fear or the labour party going strictly to the left - and do a revolution...
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