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64. GMO's have been PRESUMED, not proven safe, since 1992.

Wed Aug 13, 2014, 04:38 AM

Aug 2014

This is when the FDA declared that henceforth, GMO products would be presumed safe, and the burden would be on anyone who thought a product was unsafe to prove that it was unsafe.

At the same time, the FDA allowed the GMO producers to control GMO seeds, so only approved researchers were allowed to use the seeds for research; and these researchers were required to sign confidentiality agreements in order to use the seeds. These agreements allowed the producers to ban the publication of any research they wanted to ban.

So all the research you see is favorable for GMO products because that is all the producers will allow to be published. And they got this power from the 1992 decision of the FDA. And we have Dick Cheney to thank for that.

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Kevin O'Leary (SharkTank) badly beaten in GMO debate with 14 year-old girl [View all] KurtNYC Aug 2014 OP

Go Rachel! freedom fighter jh Aug 2014 #1

It's a good thing science isn't decided by debate... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #2

Science 101: Scientific theories can be disproven or supported but they can't be proven. KurtNYC Aug 2014 #6

Acutally, scientific theories CAN be proven... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #9

So you reject Karl Popper? KurtNYC Aug 2014 #21

Scientific Fact is a term used. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #22

Thanks for the additional confirmation of what I have been trying to tell you. KurtNYC Aug 2014 #27

You stated there is no fact. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #28

In my post #21, I give the definitions of both fact and theory KurtNYC Aug 2014 #34

GMO's have been PRESUMED, not proven safe, since 1992. pnwmom Aug 2014 #64

Source watch alert!!! Why do all roads for GMOs (Monsanto) among other shit stains on our mother earth Aug 2014 #8

Those studies were not made nor paid for by John Entine... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #10

That is pure BS, HE is The Genetic Literacy Project, and all studies there are pro-industry mother earth Aug 2014 #14

What is your fucking disconnect? Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #20

The only thing bullshit here is the anti-science. CSStrowbridge Aug 2014 #33

It has been stated far and wide, as always, the reason GMOs are in question is because there are no mother earth Aug 2014 #39

Bullshit CSStrowbridge Aug 2014 #48

No, it is difficult to sift through any of the "available" studies. For one thing many of the so mother earth Aug 2014 #68

More about Jon Entine's "Genetic Literacy Project" mother earth Aug 2014 #11

What part of "those studies are not from John Entine" Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #12

HE is running a front group paid for by his clients, i.e., MONSANTO. There is no credibility to any mother earth Aug 2014 #15

They aren't studies from the GLP. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #18

Its kind of like ... BKLawyer Aug 2014 #31

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No ... BKLawyer Aug 2014 #49

I see... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #52

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You have refused to read the studies. and have formed your own opinions. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #43

An old saying; put your money where your mouth is, noting personal. You content there is DhhD Aug 2014 #16

You wouldn't want wild corn... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #19

"Broadcaster" jumps on to gang up on Rachel several times, adding to the Kevin Effect drynberg Aug 2014 #3

Most Excellent bahrbearian Aug 2014 #4

Pretty ironic that HE accuses HER of being the shill! RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #5

He is very condescending to her (as he is to most people) KurtNYC Aug 2014 #7

So very glad chervilant Aug 2014 #13

Good point. The girl clearly is not making a living lobbying government officials for changes to KurtNYC Aug 2014 #23

This guy is such a bastard.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #17

His MO seems to be to use insults to throw you off your gamre and then KurtNYC Aug 2014 #25

His favorite is the desperate person who doesn't know that have a gold mine.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #30

Funny thing about all this... Archae Aug 2014 #24

All that being true, eShirl Aug 2014 #26

What does SHE know at age 14 about science? alp227 Aug 2014 #29

and yet she beat O'Leary, a 52-year-old self-crowned genius KurtNYC Aug 2014 #35

So? That doesn't mean GMO's are harmful. alp227 Aug 2014 #36

Fun fact: Europe is made up entirely of 14-year-old anti-GMO hysterics n/t RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #41

Fun fact: Countries in Europe Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #45

The GMO lovers are being fed a pack of junk science without knowing it. pnwmom Aug 2014 #65

"The 1992 FDA under Reagan" alp227 Aug 2014 #66

Yes, I meant Bush/Cheney. And the "scientific consensus" is meaningless when the research pnwmom Aug 2014 #67

which goes to show she knew her talking points better than he knew his. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #32

Why don't people have the right to know how their food is produced? KurtNYC Aug 2014 #38

for a variety of reasons. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #42

So much for the free market, eh? RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #44

Amazing how you keyed in on ONE point. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #47

Science is true wether you believe it or not. montex Aug 2014 #40

That was great! Ruby the Liberal Aug 2014 #50

Waiting for the Eko Aug 2014 #51

That is exactly on point. Quixote1818 Aug 2014 #53

We are the Lab Rats, bahrbearian Aug 2014 #54

Peer Review this and let me know your thoughts: KurtNYC Aug 2014 #55

I am not sure what point you are trying to make. Eko Aug 2014 #56

You said there as no evidence that GMO crops are unsafe for human consumption yet KurtNYC Aug 2014 #57

Actually what I said was Eko Aug 2014 #58

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First off Eko Aug 2014 #60

have to paste the link in your address bar or it redirects, sorry. Eko Aug 2014 #61

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Organic food that killed 30 people. Eko Aug 2014 #63