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In reply to the discussion: Knock Knock: Its the FBI [View all]markpkessinger
(8,899 posts)32. Wikipedia has a pretty good discussion of this that might clarify things for you . . .
. . .it is drawn from Black's Law Dictionary and from Barron's, as well as from Supreme Court rulings (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-incrimination#cite_ref-12 ).
Here is one particularly pertinent passage from that discussion:
Truthful statements by an innocent person
An incriminating statement includes any statement that tends to increase the danger that the person making the statement will be accused, charged or prosecuted even if the statement is true, and even if the person is innocent of any crime. Thus, even a person who is innocent of any crime who testifies truthfully can be incriminated by that testimony. The United States Supreme Court has stated that the Fifth Amendment privilege:
The U.S. Supreme Court has also stated:
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[font size=1](12) Ohio v. Reiner, 532 U.S. 17 (2001) (per curiam).
(13) Ullmann v. United States, 350 U.S. 422, 426 (1956) (footnote omitted)
An incriminating statement includes any statement that tends to increase the danger that the person making the statement will be accused, charged or prosecuted even if the statement is true, and even if the person is innocent of any crime. Thus, even a person who is innocent of any crime who testifies truthfully can be incriminated by that testimony. The United States Supreme Court has stated that the Fifth Amendment privilege:
protects the innocent as well as the guilty.... one of the Fifth Amendments basic functions . . . is to protect innocent men . . . who otherwise might be ensnared by ambiguous circumstances..... truthful responses of an innocent witness, as well as those of a wrongdoer, may provide the government with incriminating evidence from the speakers own mouth.(12)
The U.S. Supreme Court has also stated:
Too many, even those who should be better advised, view this privilege as a shelter for wrongdoers. They too readily assume that those who invoke it are either guilty of crime or commit perjury in claiming the privilege.(13)
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[font size=1](12) Ohio v. Reiner, 532 U.S. 17 (2001) (per curiam).
(13) Ullmann v. United States, 350 U.S. 422, 426 (1956) (footnote omitted)
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Thats because he really wasnt confused nor do I believe he forgot the Constitution.
cstanleytech
Sep 2014
#13
Transparency in government has always been a wishful fantasy as there isnt
cstanleytech
Sep 2014
#14
I love this woman. I admire her coolness and fearlessness. Are these two really FBI or 'contractors'
marble falls
Sep 2014
#6
Watch out! The FBI (as well as any other law enforcement agency) WILL boldfaced lie
1monster
Sep 2014
#8
This is the legacy of J. Edgar Holder. There's one simple objective of our surveillance state...
whereisjustice
Sep 2014
#11
Wikipedia has a pretty good discussion of this that might clarify things for you . . .
markpkessinger
Sep 2014
#32
My guess is, if she said no, and they do find violent people within that group...
Neoma
Sep 2014
#22
btw - she'll never be able to learn what lists she is on, no fly, bolo, etc. she is already targeted
whereisjustice
Sep 2014
#23