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Mister Nightowl

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17. Oh, the Irony!

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 01:59 AM

Oct 2014

Sam Harris: "We have been sold this meme of Islamophobia, where every criticism of the doctrine of Islam gets conflated with bigotry toward Muslims as people."

Replace Islamophobia with anti-semitism, where any criticism of Israeli governmental policy gets conflated with bigotry toward Jews as people.

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Bill Maher and Ben Affleck Battle Over Radical Islam - " They Will F*cking Kill You! " [View all] Veilex Oct 2014 OP

I like Maher, but, sometimes, Maher is the Joy Behar of political merrily Oct 2014 #1

Agreed. Veilex Oct 2014 #2

It's not about education. He's very smart. The two do not always merrily Oct 2014 #3

Point taken. Veilex Oct 2014 #5

I have a BIG problem with the idea that one has to go to college to be well educated/knowledgeable. 1monster Oct 2014 #49

Agree! merrily Oct 2014 #50

I think you meant to reply to me? Veilex Oct 2014 #52

My reply was really to both of you. As for "college does make it a lot easier to get educated" 1monster Oct 2014 #59

Well, you really need two things... Veilex Oct 2014 #60

Maher was right. People get born into their religions and their leaders valerief Oct 2014 #4

The Pope is a central figure in all Catholicism. Islam has no counterpart. merrily Oct 2014 #6

They tried to kill this guy valerief Oct 2014 #8

"They" does not equal Islam. merrily Oct 2014 #9

What about the subsequent rioting that went on against him for the cartoons? valerief Oct 2014 #11

That is on those who rioted, not on Islam. merrily Oct 2014 #13

They rioted because it offended Islam!!! nt valerief Oct 2014 #15

Because, in their minds, it offended Islam. That is still on them. merrily Oct 2014 #16

And Christianity doesn't say homosexuality is bad, but goddam if valerief Oct 2014 #18

Jesus didn't say it, but, unfortunately, Christianity does say that. merrily Oct 2014 #20

Again with the books. The books don't count. It's what the leaders tell valerief Oct 2014 #47

If your reply 18 was not referring to what "the book" says merrily Oct 2014 #51

It's on the people who support phil89 Oct 2014 #80

"The many Muslims who disagree can't disagree aloud for fear of being punished... Veilex Oct 2014 #10

Most people, no matter what their religion or lack thereof, are not valerief Oct 2014 #14

Bingo! Fearless Oct 2014 #25

Polls also can be manipulated.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #39

Xtian bashing okay, Islam bashing not Cayenne Oct 2014 #7

What part of the Christian religion requires being led in prayer merrily Oct 2014 #12

Compliance to Islam is the issue Cayenne Oct 2014 #19

For you, maybe. For others it's the First Amendment, federal laws, etc. merrily Oct 2014 #22

It has happened in school Cayenne Oct 2014 #26

Um, no. My post never said the 1st Amend. was only for Muslims. merrily Oct 2014 #27

The issue of prayer in public schools . . . markpkessinger Oct 2014 #72

EXACTLY..... Ecumenist Oct 2014 #29

Thank you. merrily Oct 2014 #30

jews are not supposed to eat pork either. DesertFlower Oct 2014 #28

Yep.....I just don't get the fear that people have of Islam because of the a number of crazies... Ecumenist Oct 2014 #31

Many public and private places STILL feature fish on Fridays. merrily Oct 2014 #32

As a Catholic, I agree with you post 100 percent yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #53

It was not only Fridays during Lent. It was Fridays all year long. merrily Oct 2014 #54

Yieks! Before my time. Lol. yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #56

Before everyone's time. merrily Oct 2014 #57

What? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #36

Oh, the Irony! Mister Nightowl Oct 2014 #17

Irony, indeed. Israel is a nation, not a religion. merrily Oct 2014 #23

Exactly .. Lenomsky Oct 2014 #46

Nailed it. ctsnowman Oct 2014 #35

And here are the New Rules Mister Nightowl Oct 2014 #21

Ben is 100% right. Bill is 100% wrong. Fearless Oct 2014 #24

Religion kills a working, compassionate mind. blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #33

it didn't kill mine demwing Oct 2014 #45

When Steele's points are more liberal than Maher's, merrily Oct 2014 #34

Ben Affleck plays a CIA Officer in a Film, so now he's an expert on Islam PeoViejo Oct 2014 #37

What, actors can't study issues? Actors can't become experts on specific subjects? demwing Oct 2014 #40

Affleck still managed to make Maher look like a drooling fanatic last night. Paladin Oct 2014 #42

Maybe he stumbled upon it's history jakeXT Oct 2014 #79

Just stop siding with any religion, and agree that Religion is bad. Lobo27 Oct 2014 #38

Sorry "all religion is bad" IS a bias demwing Oct 2014 #41

I guess, I can. Lobo27 Oct 2014 #48

We must remember that many countries that have a majority of Muslims currently do not hrmjustin Oct 2014 #43

anyone who worships iamthebandfanman Oct 2014 #44

This is really overstating what happened. Yes, Affleck was a little too emotional during the still_one Oct 2014 #55

Which nation does not have issues in its past? merrily Oct 2014 #58

Germany did accepts responsibility for the genocide, Turkey won't accept its responsibility in the still_one Oct 2014 #67

"That point went over the head of Affleck I think" - You think so? Veilex Oct 2014 #62

I have an ongoing debate with my fundie uncle. louis-t Oct 2014 #61

given his thought processes, that'll probably make him turn on Jews now! MisterP Oct 2014 #68

I can only conclude that Theocracies are dangerous. olegramps Oct 2014 #63

Having been a high school teacher in a university town and working Goodwill retail on the side, maddiemom Oct 2014 #64

"an Amish woman and a Muslim mom exchanging babies and chatting." - That warmed my heart a bit. Veilex Oct 2014 #65

I loved this post BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #66

Thank you. Checking back I realize I was distracted by a small family emergency and didn't make any maddiemom Oct 2014 #71

Great debate last night... wheniwasincongress Oct 2014 #69

I think it was that he was seriously agitated with Bill's stance. Veilex Oct 2014 #78

He was acting weird before they came to that topic wheniwasincongress Oct 2014 #81

Hmmm... Veilex Oct 2014 #82

I'm totally with Ben. Maher is such an asshat so much of the time.. 2banon Oct 2014 #70

Respect to Ben Affleck. blackspade Oct 2014 #73

I enjoy Maher much of the time . . . markpkessinger Oct 2014 #74

Maher begins with the fucked-up belief... Darkhawk32 Oct 2014 #75

You're right. Ineeda Oct 2014 #77

Affleck was so disgusted with Maher.Bet it's the last time we will see him on his show. SummerSnow Oct 2014 #76