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nikto

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5. Only a fool would write-off all of RT---- Thom Hartmann and Abby Martin are great
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 03:06 AM
Dec 2014

Last edited Thu Dec 4, 2014, 09:27 PM - Edit history (4)

I will absolutely defend them (and maybe a few others as well) on RT.


You have to be a pretty dense, uninformed and ignorant person not to be able to see the
entirely expectable pro-Putin propaganda served-up on RT.

I remember vividly when in the early 2000s US cable tv network news sources who were owned by mega-companies who also
had weapons divisions and military contract$ were cheerleading for the Iraq War.
Talk about conflict-of-interest---And those were American stations!

You do remember that don't you? (Or at least you know of it, right?).

RT's propaganda is obvious and heavy-handed, almost comical.
For myself, I just switch channels when the propaganda starts flowing, as it does on several of RT's shows.
No problem--I am an educated, media-savvy person who can smell propaganda of almost any sort a mile away.

I can make distinctions between propaganda and good muckraking reporting (as done by Hartman and Martin).

Surely, you Putin-slammers out there are educated, media-savvy people as well (I assume).
Then why all the fear and hate?
It comes off as very sophomoric, IMO.

You other posters (so far) on this thread...

You mean to tell me you don't see the corporate spin/censorship in Comcast/MSNBC? The sycophancy of CNN?
Fox is obvious.
But even PBS has heavy corporate/Koch Bros sponsorship (read:$$$) that has affected the quality and content of
their news and programming including shows on foreign policy and climate change (all well-reported-have you not read about this?).

Al Jazeera has some good reporting, but IMO, they are just 1 source, and are subjective to the spin
of their ownership as well. I don't watch them nearly as much as RT. Maybe I should watch them more?

Thank God for Amy Goodman and Pacifica, but they are not enough by themselves.
America needs 100 Amy Goodmans, IMO.

IMO, we need ALL sources, even Fox (to use as the gold standard of comparison for corporate/RW BS).

Go ahead---Criticise the obvious Putin-burnishers at RT all you want (Like I said, I usually choose to switch channels at that time).

General principle I have learned to be true:
That which is obvious and heavy-handed is far less dangerous than subtle, skillful manipulation (or omission) of news.
You do get that, right?

RT is as obvious as FOX when it goes over-the-line. Visible a mile away.

But luckily, RT also gives some good reporters a free-hand who dig up bad things that are actually
happening in America, and under-reported by our own corporate news.
And unlike MSNBC/FOX, there is no Democratic-Republican Party "horse-race" spin.

And there are other reasons Thom Hartmann/Abby Martin and a few others on RT get my viewing:
Noam Chomsky
Chris Hedges
Richard D Wolff
Brad Friedman
Danny Schecter
Greg Palast
David Sirota

There are others as well.

Why are these important voices NEVER heard on CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc?
Never.

Only Pacifica and RT.

So--There's no censorship on US Corporate news?
Don't make me laugh you out of the room.

Oh yes---Another small reason I like RT---No commercials.

Of course, any corporatist would be deeply offended by that, I'm sure.

But you folks aren't corporatists, are you?

So make fun of RT all you want (shirtless Putin jokes all day long, ha ha ha---I might even laugh along too ).

But there's no reason to hate or fear RT, that is,
if you can handle the "information" part about living in an Information Society.

I realize many FOX-watchers can't.

But I assume you folks who posted earlier on this thread, are way smarter than that.

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Putin makes my skin crawl! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #1
RT is funded by the Kremlin. Socal31 Dec 2014 #2
But he's ... dreamy! And he goes shirtless! He swims with dolphins and rides BEARS!!!! MADem Dec 2014 #3
Some of RT's programming is for the birds. I would not even bother to watch the show you post JDPriestly Dec 2014 #4
Only a fool would write-off all of RT---- Thom Hartmann and Abby Martin are great nikto Dec 2014 #5
Excellent, EXCELLENT evaluation! maddiemom Dec 2014 #16
Thank you nikto Dec 2014 #18
^^^this^^^ indeed! Thank you for posting. "sophomoric" is being generous Purveyor Dec 2014 #17
Thanks 4 the validation! nikto Dec 2014 #19
Abby Martin is a joke and Thom Hartmann sold his soul when he uhnope Dec 2014 #28
Well, I guess the neocon (foreign policy) folks are spoken for, then? nikto Dec 2014 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author uhnope Dec 2014 #30
your argument holds as much water as a sifter uhnope Dec 2014 #31
Then what are your opinions about... nikto Dec 2014 #32
Didn't think so nikto Dec 2014 #35
I don't have to go down your (dirty) laundry list uhnope Jan 2015 #36
Just keep making statements with no ideas/arguments to back them up nikto Jan 2015 #37
right, it's my feelings about RT being a Kremlin agency that's at issue uhnope Jan 2015 #38
Hilarious response-----Your desperation is showing nikto Jan 2015 #39
On an objective level it's hard not to admire some of his accomplishments as an individual Recursion Dec 2014 #6
Not the best examples in your OP. Tymonshenko has a history of very nasty rhetoric. newthinking Dec 2014 #7
Thank you for your post swilton Dec 2014 #21
I've often wondered Beearewhyain Dec 2014 #8
VERY EMBARRASSING TO ANY OBJECTIVE TRUTH SEEKER drynberg Dec 2014 #9
More FOXy than FOX Derek V Dec 2014 #10
putin Madmiddle Dec 2014 #11
Who’s the Propagandist: US or RT? and hiding the Neo Nazis WillYourVoteBCounted Dec 2014 #12
Thank you swilton Dec 2014 #23
John Pilger on Propaganda swilton Dec 2014 #25
"Ukraine's Ex-PM Tymoshenko: Take up Arms and Kill the Russians" WillYourVoteBCounted Dec 2014 #13
Russia wants war - look how closely they put their country to our military bases WillYourVoteBCounted Dec 2014 #14
That picture says "I believe everything I read on the Internet" geek tragedy Dec 2014 #20
Where do you think swilton Dec 2014 #22
Not Kazakhstan. There are no US or NATO bases in Kazakhstan. nt geek tragedy Dec 2014 #24
Closed in June jakeXT Dec 2014 #26
This one has been posted before davidpdx Dec 2014 #34
Is that a picture of Putin having his daily cup of Joe Stalin? Xipe Totec Dec 2014 #15
does someone have a hard on for RT? wildbilln864 Dec 2014 #27
This is a sophomoric thread to begin with nikto Dec 2014 #33
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